Thread: Software VS. Software

My favorite has to be Nuendo right now...I was a cakewalk user when I first started and quickly realized it's limitaions..no direct monitoring of fx, terrible EQing ability and lack of a good mixing view. Then I found Cubase and was creating more happily than ever..I enjoyed the interface, the ability to choose what type of monitoring I wanted, the clear menu selections on sync and MIDI. I tried Logic at one point but found myself having to really read the manual many times over to understand certain aspects of it..the mixer was nice but the environment made it impossible to get things done quickly if you didnt know what the hell was going on with it. Then came Nuendo...wow!! a complete step up from Cubase and a pretty good contender to Pro Tools..I never really got into Pro Tools since it requires 20 plus grand to even get started on a real Pro Tools system...dont have that type of cash lying around!! Anyways, Nuendo has a rock solid feel and style to it. Brings out the creativity in me that I like.
In the long run most people are right when they say it's totally up to you and how you learn and adapt to a certain interface. One can say all they want about a certain software but in the end "you" have to be happy!
Opus

thats funny u mention those things u don't like about cakewalk...cuz Sonar addressed and fixed all of them...i also meant digital recording quality...for ex i went to a studio that used pro tools i wasn't too sure if he had the "official" pro tools set up or what all i know is the vocals sounded relatively same as my vocals recording on Cakewalk pro 9 thru a mackie1402vlz and delta 66 sndcard...in my opinion that would make pro tools the worse of the product cuz i would assume that the studio has way better equipment then i do..meaning it should sound way better...at least i think...maybe the engineer wasn't as good as i thought?

I guess maybe being more specific in your question would have led to a different answer!!! I totally hear(no pun intended there) you when you say you got the same quality sounding on your system as compared to the guy running pro tools. It is the engineer combined with the gear neing used that gets the better sound. Anyone can have all the most expensive and latest and greatest equipment and still make is sound like shit! Money can not buy you good ears!! Plain and simple! I recently listened to a recording done at a Pro Tools studio and then listened to what I recorded on my Nuendo system and it sounded very very close indeed! Not to sound egotistical or anything but my ears are tuned very well! I used an AKG D112 for vocals(since I lent my vocal mic to someone!!) and it came out sounding awesome! I'm going to try that more often! I put it thru my Mackie 1402 and used the inserts to get a direct out into my US428! USB!! no PCI card on that session!! It just goes to show that it's all in the operator!
Now, Cubase and Nuendo definately have a different sound quality to it..as well as Pro Tools...
Opus

HEEEYYYY wiat a min i didn't say my recording sounded like shit ;) i just said it sounded similar.

I'd just like to point out that the software is not what makes it sound different. It's the AD and DA converters, as well as the clock driving them, that contribute to the quality of the tone. You should have bit accuurate samples from all software if you use unity gain (fader at 0). If you are worried about the sound of the internal mixer of your software app, don't use it. Take you project to a studio with a quality analog desk to mixdown, if you feel it's good enuf.

I'm just starting out with computer based recording... I'm using CUBSE 32 and I like it as far as the editing. The mixing is is great...


NOW I've a question for the NEUDO guy.... The one thing that I don't like is the exporting. I'll have the mix great and I happy... Then I export it to 2 track sterio file... play it back and it has lost something. It's not as crisp, the tone is a little different. AND to answer your question before hand, no I didn't change from 24 to 16 bit.. I've been transfering from the adat's to the computer at 16.

What properties are you selecting for the mixdown? Where are you listening to the two track mixdown when it is done? Another program? What version of Nuendo are you running..the latest version is 1.5.3pr1...most of the mixdown bugs have been corrected so far with this latest release..was the file created at 44.1 or 48Khz? let me know
Opus

OPUS..

I'm sorry, I was not clear.. I'm running cubase vst 32(5.0)..

I set the automation and everything sounds great. Then I click the export and it creats a stereo track @ 44.1 - 16 bits..

I transfer the audio from my ADATs @ 48 - 16 bits..

If I play it back in Cubase there is a slight change.... Same with Wavelab....