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I just bought a Steinberg CI 1 USB Audio Interface, a Shure SM58, and a Logitech HD Pro C920 Webcam.

My goal: To create youtube video's. I want to record myself for certain parts of the video with the webcam, but I want my Shure SM58 to be the microphone that picks up the audio while my webcam does the video. Also, I want to be able to use my Shure SM58 to talk to someone live on skype.

What I've done so far: I've installed both of the Steinberg CI 1 CD's, I've plugged the CI 1 into my computer via a USB cable, and I've plugged my Shure SM58 into my CI 1 interface in either the 2/R or the 1/L slots on the rear panel. The Peak light hasn't come on next to Input 1 and 2, and I really have no idea where to go from here.

If you know how to accomplish what I would like to do, I shall be eternally grateful if you share the knowledge (:

Please be detailed though, as I really am new to this stuff!

Thanks (:

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pcrecord Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:42

I don't really know the Steinberg CI, but the first thing I'd do is to read the manual and follow the steps to make sure your setup is ok.
You need to know that once the setup is ok, you need a video recording software. I'm sure there's one included in the webcam package, but it needs to be able to ajust the video and audio source independently (to choose the the Steingberg)

Other thing you can do is to go in the control panel and sound and ajust the recording options to choose the Steingberg..

Krim00 Thu, 08/21/2014 - 18:54

I have Sony Vegas for video and audio editting.

I know how to record both audio and video with my webcam, but I don't want the audio from the webcam, I want to replace that audio with audio from my SHURE SM58. I think I figured that part out though. I opened Wavelab LE 8 that was software that came with my CI 1 and did a recording there. So I guess I would start recording there, then I would fire up my video, and then I would sync up the video and audio tracks with Sony Vegas.

The only part I can't figure out now is how to setup this microphone for talking live on skype, I don't see the microphone as an option when I look at my audio devices in skype.

Any idea's? (:

Thanks!

RemyRAD Mon, 08/25/2014 - 17:55

No goony guy, that's not the way ya do it. Don't assume anything because you know nothing. You use Sony Vegas? You spent $600? Why on earth would you spend so much money for a program? Oh, you didn't spend that much money on Vegas. You got it for free, right? Right. Freely cracked. No? You're an expert video editor right? That's why you needed Vegas right? Or you were using it for multitrack audio production using the microphone built into your laptop web camera right? Yeah well...

Yes I like your idea using a great sounding SM-58 as your presentation announcing microphone. The WebCam, not so much so. But usable for picture purposes on Skype.

Here's the problem you're going to run into. When ya use Vegas (I use Vegas) you have to select what sources you want to record with. Be it the camera, external video inputs of all sorts, the devices that the cameras must plug into is not directly into the computer USB connectors. Such is a live outboard 4 input, frame store synchronized, switcher. For multi-camera production purposes, live, switched, for television. And then you also have to select the audio input sources. But within Vegas, that's for recording purposes. Not for live real-time conversations on Skype. I haven't used Skype except within the confines of what's on board my laptop. Which is the WebCam and not the built-in microphone on the laptop but the external microphone input, being fed, with a multimedia headphone/microphone combination, headset. Nevertheless, one also has to select the head worn external microphone, within the software or application in use with Skype, Vegas, Audition, whatever. And then the separate video source if it's not the internal web cam but an external USB/FireWire video input device.

So it's simply a matter of plugging in yourself and selecting the proper sources within the Skype program. In this particular respect, you'll be choosing your Steinberg thingy C 1 as your audio source. Not whatever is built into your laptop. And that's generally a drop-down menu, within the program, somewhere under options or settings. And the computer will default back to its built-in onboard stuff, as soon as you unplug your Steinberg thingy. Which really is overkill here but good nevertheless. Better than what the computer onboard soundcard thingy would offer. But really, the audio artifacting in Skype is generally, already pretty severe sounding dreck with tons of compression artifacting. Yuck yuck and barf barf BARF! So while you might get a slightly better tonality, tighter sound, warmer sound. It'll still sound like LOL-FI while you're speaking and blowing bubbles underwater. Kind of like shaving your face into a bucket of water, while trying to bite and Apple while simultaneously trying to hold a conversation. Don't forget to come up for air.

This will also not provide for you, any kind of dynamic range compression or limiting, equalization or echo or reverb effects, whatsoever. Those are generally not real-time functions unless you happen to have a very powerful and expensive, real-time based system like a full-blown ProTools HD-3 rig, with numerous onboard DSP processing chips, for real-time effects. We should only set you back about $20,000.. Because Skype is not a TV station. It's a communications program. So no cool whizbang, anything. I know this bursts your bubble and rains on your parade. For which I am eternally sorry for. We all want to do that. But it ain't going to happen.

In order to get that, into Skype, you need to purchase something like the EdiRol, by Roland, multi-input camera, digital video switcher, with built-in effects, in real time. Cost? Anywhere from $1000 to, $5000. And you'll be able to run up to 4 standard resolution, composite output, video cameras. Those also have built-in sound. But their outputs are not USB or FireWire. They are analog outputs that then have to be plugged into other devices, appropriate with which to feed your USB or FireWire inputs. So now you're talking about yet more money costing from $40, to $4000. And does your computer really have the processing power for good quality standard resolution video of a 720 or, 640x480 full-size resolution. Anything smaller than that like 352 by 240 is less resolution than 30+ year old VHS and Betamax home video recorders. With simply crappy audio to match.

So what's the reason for wanting to do this anyhow? You're going to be the next top personality entertainer on TV? You'll have to do better than that. You're talking about highly specialized production techniques and the equipment needed to accomplish that with. Software like Vegas, is all after-the-fact production. It's designed for production. Not for live streaming video. Skype is designed for live streaming video of only communications quality. Though higher definition broadcast quality is capable. You have to have the throughput and upload speeds, the processing power behind that, to get that. High resolution is 720P, 1080P, 1080i & standard resolution is 480i (i, is for interlaced P is for progressive. In case ya didn't know?) Good standard resolution can still be great looking. Lousy standard resolution will look lousy.

This is not an inexpensive venture. And anyone who can only afford a Steinberg C 1, generally doesn't run out and purchase a $600 video/audio program. But they do have a consumer version costing much less. But that's not what you indicated you had. So you have let the elephant out of the doghouse by telling us you are using cracked software? Bad boy! Bad. No dog biscuit for you. But then again, you might be a top video editor working from pre-recorded content on a hard drive? But then, you would have already read the manual to the Sony Vegas and already know about selecting those sources. So not reading anything like the help files within the program, the manual to your Steinberg C 1, indicates that you are still yet a youngster, that doesn't know how to read nothin'? You just want to play, right? It's so much fun I know.. I've had fun doing this for a living, so I could afford the software and the hardware I wanted. Because I read every manual, beforehand, since and always. More than once, twice, three times, 10 times, 20 times, 100 times. And you've read nothing. How do you expect to impress anyone if ya haven't read anything? See? See Dick run. See Jane fall on her ass. See Dick laugh his balls off.

What grade did you say you were in?
Mx. Remy Ann David

pcrecord Mon, 08/25/2014 - 18:12

Yet another very unsettling post from RemyRad. Sorry Remy, you don't have to go to Mars to buy beer, I'm sure we can find some in a mile radius ;)

All the OP wants to do is to record a video with a webcam and grab the audio from another source.
Get into the settings of your software and if the option isn't there find another one that does it.

paulears Tue, 08/26/2014 - 00:44

Are you sure you can split your webcams audio? One of my pcs here will simply not let me feed video and audio from my Jvc recorder into say, adobe premiere and allow me to select an audio interface and use that at the same time. I have to choose one or the other. You say you want to do YouTube videos, I'm confused why you picked a nasty webcam yet presumably want decent image quality and editing, hence Vegas? Vegas is a great editor, but not like my premiere really designed for live recording, it's designed to bring in data files for you to edit.

You're also going to look a bit strange talking into a 58 near your lips, not a very common combination for videos?

So, my questions are.
What software are you trying to use to record two data streams at the same time? As in picture from webcam and sound from the Steinberg interface?

Have you tried recording using the Steinberg interface into an audio program, to check it works properly?

My guess is simply that you have multiple problems, and possibly the wrong kind of software.

Neither my video editor or audio recording pcs offer the facility to record video from USB and audio from a different USB input at the same time. The drop down boxes let me select an input, but not two!

Workflow needs a rethink. I'd probably do this kind of thing with a proper camera. Webcams are horrible things, and very often not even full frame rate. I'd record sound and picture separately and sync them in the editor.

Remy made her point in her usual way, but I think most of us would agree about using cracked software. I'm paying adobe many pounds each month to use their products, perhaps even more than they are worth, but I do it. We are therefore frosty dealing with people who stole it for free. I do understand why you do it, as I work with students a lot, but most people on this forum pay our mortgages from our work, so perhaps you can understand why you are getting a rough ride.

anonymous Tue, 08/26/2014 - 03:54

"Remy made her point in her usual way, but I think most of us would agree about using cracked software. I'm paying adobe many pounds each month to use their products, perhaps even more than they are worth, but I do it. We are therefore frosty dealing with people who stole it for free. I do understand why you do it, as I work with students a lot, but most people on this forum pay our mortgages from our work, so perhaps you can understand why you are getting a rough ride. '

Remy made an accusation based on absolutely nothing. Exactly where did the OP say he was using cracked software of any kind? Remy said he was, which was incredibly and unfairly assumptive and accusatory.
What she is saying should not be taken as fact, nor should her assumptions be referred to as the gospel truth in any posts afterwards.

The OP never said anything - nor was there any evidence of any kind in the OP's posts - that would give any indication that cracked software of any kind was in use.

And so what if he spent $600 on software? We've all spent far more on various programs over the years and no one ever assumed that we were using cracked versions ...

Sony Vegas is a popular consumer editing platform that works very well - and my suspicion as to why the OP is using it is because - unlike Adobe Premier or Final Cut - it's very easy to use and far more productive in far less time, if you are new to video editing. Also, FWIW, Sony Vegas's BASIC version - Movie Maker - is $50... not $600. Again, Remy made an assumption that the OP was using a full blown Pro Suite version of the platform.

C'mon gang... be smarter than this.

d/

paulears Tue, 08/26/2014 - 12:45

Oops - my apologies. That will teach me to believe what I read.

I've just been experimenting on this macbook, and I cannot use an external audio device and a cheap webcam I have laying around here at the same time on anything on this computer - so I certainly can't record from a webcam and get the audio from a separate source.

RemyRAD Tue, 08/26/2014 - 12:48

Whoops. Sorry my bad.

Yeah, Movie Maker $50 but he said Vegas. We've all spent a lot for software, for sure. But I don't need to be paying Adobe monthly? My older software is paid for and works just fine. My upgraded Vegas was worth the cost. Which I really wouldn't have needed if I hadn't gone Windows 8 on the new laptop purchase, last year. So I'm really not gleaning any operational advantages to that 64-bit upgrade, thank you very much.

Yeah I apologize for making accusations. As I had indicated, the OP could be an expert video editor. And thus, might not have their abilities fully dug in with an overabundance of high-end gear like so many of us have very heavily invested in? I've got well over $150,000 invested in equipment, alone. And really, he might not be an audio person? Much like many of the video editors I worked with over at NBC-TV whose audio skills, were pretty underwhelming when it came to understanding anything about audio.

So again my Heartfelt apologies. I've been under a great deal of stress in the past few weeks with unbelievable frustrations and angst. I'm sitting here in Austin, Texas, with my finger up my ass for the past 3+ weeks as the CROWmobile.com truck has been sitting at a transmission shop since I blew my clutch on arrival here in Austin. And the brand-new diesel generator I purchased to power it up, blew up on the break-in time. So I can do nothing until I return this 300 pound plus diesel generator. So my frustrations, anxiety, anger, obviously came through on that particular late-night response. And yeah... I did run out of my prescription meds. I've been hamstrung.

Ouch!

pcrecord Tue, 08/26/2014 - 14:08

Remy you make me think of one very popular Quebec pop signer I worked with. She started to sing at a very young age and had a very good carrier. She went in france and travelled the world with StarMania and sold a ton of CDs. She was one of our big star (long before Celine Dion who also comes from Quebec) Things is, she never did anything else in her life and was blessed with a lot of gift, acknolegment and attention.
Now a day, at 66yo, she still sings in big shows. Thing is man she is bitch and since she starts to have less good memory she always blame the musicians. I was playing 8 shows in 4 weeks to a nice Casino with her. Every night she would change the ending of 3-4 songs before the show and then didn't remember the changes when the song came... You come to a point you nearly hate her for it and then a couple of days later she calls and say she's sorry and thanks you for your great job !!! Man you feel cheap for hating her .. ;)

Remy, you are full of knowledge and experience. I wish you find the way to write that in your posts and moderate the rest ..
Btw, I wish you well and hope you resolve your current problems. Frustrations, anxiety and anger are no good for your health..

anonymous Tue, 08/26/2014 - 23:48

Krim00, post: 418670, member: 48353 wrote: Thanks in advance for any assistance, it is very much appreciated.

So, long story short:

I just bought a Steinberg CI 1 USB Audio Interface, a SHURE SM58, and a Logitech HD Pro C920 Webcam.

My goal: To create youtube video's. I want to record myself for certain parts of the video with the webcam, but I want my SHURE SM58 to be the microphone that picks up the audio while my webcam does the video. Also, I want to be able to use my SHURE SM58 to talk to someone live on skype.

What I've done so far: I've installed both of the Steinberg CI 1 CD's, I've plugged the CI 1 into my computer via a USB cable, and I've plugged my SHURE SM58 into my CI 1 interface in either the 2/R or the 1/L slots on the rear panel. The Peak light hasn't come on next to Input 1 and 2, and I really have no idea where to go from here.

If you know how to accomplish what I would like to do, I shall be eternally grateful if you share the knowledge :)

Please be detailed though, as I really am new to this stuff!

Thanks :)

Back to the original query...

I really don't believe that you're going to do much better with the audio than the mic that is built into the camera. According to specs, it's a stereo mic, (likely a condenser as so many are) and is built to use for the camera.

Before we go any further, what version of Vegas are you using?

pcrecord Wed, 08/27/2014 - 03:00

DonnyThompson, post: 418940, member: 46114 wrote: Back to the original query...

I really don't believe that you're going to do much better with the audio than the mic that is built into the camera.

I hope you're right Donny. The spec doesn't say much : 2 stereo mics with noise reduction.
What I fear is that usually the webcam mics are design to grab you from a far point in the room are sometime omnidirectionnal.
I bet you would grab more room sound with it then with a mic near your mouth. if the room doesn't sound good.. it'll be bad.

In any case it's worth comparing them ! ;)

anonymous Wed, 08/27/2014 - 04:54

this may be true, PC, I don't know, as the specs aren't very detailed. I'm making an assumption that the built in mics are set as X-Y, but that's based on past experience with other cameras. It may indeed be omni.

I have a few more options for him - which is why I asked him which version of Vegas he is using... there may be a way to use the 58... but I need to know which version of Vegas he has.

Although, he may be long gone.

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