I just wonder which mics are good for guitar recording. So, which mic would be the best for a tight, distorted guitar?
I helped some friends recording a demo/CD and we couldn't get a good sound. Right now I can't remember which mics we used, but we want to go over it again.
We are using a Carvin Legacy with matching 4x12" cab and a Tube Works 1x12", 100W combo with a 1x12" extension cab. Very different sounds and they're a pain to match.
Suggestions? Thanx in advance.
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here is a screen cap from IRC while I was explaining how I used
here is a screen cap from IRC while I was explaining how I used a trick from my favorite engineer in the world:
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You can make for a bigger, more room, sound and still be in phase-ish as you are phasing the mics, just keep moving back away from the cab, you will hear it get louder and softer, in cycles. After 1 or two cycles, you will probably have to turn up the mic preamp gain at the console, as the mic being further away will bring it to less than zero.
you can use more mics, different mics, whatever, just be aware that phasing will be a little less between unmatched or more mics...but youll figure it out
Also once you are done, you can stick the tracks in a PC editor multitrack app and line the phase up even more! You may think to just throw two mics up and phase them in your app later, BUT it is EASILY possible to have two mics in phase, but have them in places that DONT sound good. Better to have a good idea first of how it will sound!
feel free to e-mail me at
pipelineaudio@angelfire.com
looking for coders to help me make my own app and some sorely needed fx"
Hope that helps
Originally posted by Guitarwiz: I helped some friends recording
Originally posted by Guitarwiz:
I helped some friends recording a demo/CD and we couldn't get a good sound. Right now I can't remember which mics we used, but we want to go over it again.
We are using a Carvin Legacy with matching 4x12" cab and a Tube Works 1x12", 100W combo with a 1x12" extension cab. Very different sounds and they're a pain to match.
They're a "pain to match" to each other, or a "pain to match" to the original track you don't like?
May I suggest that you get a sound from either [or both] that sounds excellent in the room, and then worry about capturing the sound.
Too many people seem to feel that shit like microphones and preamps can make up for a deficiency with the 'tone and touch' aspects of playing an instrument. I'll give you a hint, recording engineers don't do 'alchemy', they take waveforms out of the air, and store them. Period. If the sound isn't there to begin with, there is no way in hell you can capture it.
If the sound is there, then fuck with microphone selection and placement until it fits with the rest of the tracks that comprise the song.
One thing I've found to be most helpful...get the cabinet at least 3' off the ground. Probably because I'm old and don't like to bend over to listen to a guitar amp...but frankly, the guitar's I've captured over the last few years that were at least 3' off the ground seem to have come out the best.
As always, YMMV.
Originally posted by Guitarwiz: I just wonder which mics are go
Originally posted by Guitarwiz:
I just wonder which mics are good for guitar recording. So, which mic would be the best for a tight, distorted guitar?
I use a BLUE U47 and a Shure Sm-57. I get all I need out of that combo (provided the player and amp are both up to par).
I did a really small rig (10watt) with a single 635...it was a m
I did a really small rig (10watt) with a single 635...it was a monstor...really good recording..I also put a B&K back about 3 feet as well...the 635 did really nice..and the condenser padded down about 12 dB was really nice for low level resolution and some room.
Just the 635A EV was great!
I have very good results with Beyer M69 or M88. The 88 has more
I have very good results with Beyer M69 or M88.
The 88 has more low end than the 69. The Beyer M201 is also very good.
In case you record the whole band in the same room I guess they're the best you can have.
I did lots of (metal) bands and used Sennh. 421/441, AKG C1000/3000, and many other mics on dist. guitar, but I mostly use the Beyers now, they're great :)
Originally posted by Guitarwiz: I just wonder which mics are go
Originally posted by Guitarwiz:
I just wonder which mics are good for guitar recording. So, which mic would be the best for a tight, distorted guitar?
I helped some friends recording a demo/CD and we couldn't get a good sound. Right now I can't remember which mics we used, but we want to go over it again.
We are using a Carvin Legacy with matching 4x12" cab and a Tube Works 1x12", 100W combo with a 1x12" extension cab. Very different sounds and they're a pain to match.
Suggestions? Thanx in advance.
Guitarwiz
here are the mics I tend to head for first of course ymmv but they seem to work for me and not necessarily in order:
md 421
sm57
sm58
e609
u87ai
c414
u47 fet
royer r121/sf12
plus of course a bunch of different mic pres...
hope this helps and of course it depends on the type of music.
Simon :)