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anonymous 20 October 2003

hello i,m looking to hire a mic for recording a gibson j30,nice sound but the mk012,s i,m using arent really doing it .i,m thinking along the lines of a large condenser possibly a u47...what do you think,the Gibson is not loud and like most Gibsons curved away in the mids,I,m strumming with my fingers and want something big and warm sounding...oh the last thing,i,m going through a Sebatron pre (which is sounding great on my vocals )through a Hedd192
I,m recording in a barn in Austria so i cant really these mics hence the need for guidance
cheers julian

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anonymous Mon, 10/20/2003 - 16:14

I had excellent results with the AEA R84 and a mid-50's j-185. There were two J-185's actually. One restored (bright and balanced) and one worn and original (warm and scooped). The preamp was a Daking with eq flat. I tried a Lawson L-47, a U87i, tlm-103, and the R84. The R84 was the undeniable winner of the bunch and it worked on both of the old Gibsons. The only thing I didn't like about the AEA was the yoke. It's about as trustworthy as a... well... something not trustworthy. It kicks major arse on ukelele, too.

anonymous Tue, 10/21/2003 - 01:03

Originally posted by MikoKensington:
I had excellent results with the AEA R84 and a mid-50's j-185. There were two J-185's actually. One restored (bright and balanced) and one worn and original (warm and scooped). The preamp was a Daking with eq flat. I tried a Lawson L-47, a U87i, tlm-103, and the R84. The R84 was the undeniable winner of the bunch and it worked on both of the old Gibsons. The only thing I didn't like about the AEA was the yoke. It's about as trustworthy as a... well... something not trustworthy. It kicks major arse on ukelele, too.

anonymous Tue, 10/21/2003 - 01:08

Originally posted by MikoKensington:
I had excellent results with the AEA R84 and a mid-50's j-185. There were two J-185's actually. One restored (bright and balanced) and one worn and original (warm and scooped). The preamp was a Daking with eq flat. I tried a Lawson L-47, a U87i, tlm-103, and the R84. The R84 was the undeniable winner of the bunch and it worked on both of the old Gibsons. The only thing I didn't like about the AEA was the yoke. It's about as trustworthy as a... well... something not trustworthy. It kicks major arse on ukelele, too.

so i,m interested in the ribbon mic, i could hire a Royer121 from the uk but i,ve never heard this mic....decisions!!thanks for your suggestions

anonymous Tue, 10/21/2003 - 02:56

Originally posted by Bryson:
KM84

Bryson you say KM84 but is that not a similar ballpark to the OktavaMK102 which i like but are recording the Gibson a little bit tinny, or are they just far better sounding,i could hire one or a couple of these as well ...i,m looking for something to bring out the warmth of this guitar
i wish i was in London to try some out but i,m halfway up the Ausrtrian Alps....nice though.
Kurt maybe you could chip in how would the Sebatron handle a ribbon such as a Royer 121?

Davedog Tue, 10/21/2003 - 20:53

Whatever you decide to do, the Seb will not hinder you in any way.....

I'm for the LD in front and the KM84 over the shoulder facing down at the upper bout of the guitar.Your LD could be anything that is fairly flat,has nice detail and has low selfnoise. You can also mic the peghead as long as you dont do too much moving around.....A KM84 there is the ticket.Mark this....NOT a KM184, but the older one......If you have the dough for it, rent a U49.The U67 will also be a nice toy.The 47's are a bit darker unless they have a Modded one.

sdelsolray Sun, 10/26/2003 - 08:28

Originally posted by julian lamp:
hello i,m looking to hire a mic for recording a gibson j30,nice sound but the mk012,s i,m using arent really doing it .i,m thinking along the lines of a large condenser possibly a u47...what do you think ,the Gibson is not loud and like most Gibsons curved away in the mids,I,m strumming with my fingers and want something big and warm sounding...oh the last thing,i,m going through a sebatron pre (which is sounding great on my vocals )through a Hedd192
I,m recording in a barn in Austria so i cant really these mics hence the need for guidance
cheers julian

There have been several excellent mic suggestions from prior posts to this thread. I'm going to approach your situation from a different angle.

Try using different guitar strings. If you want a darker sound, try D'Addario Flattops of Thomastik-Infeld Spectrums. I think most would agree that the source instrument itself has more to do with the recorded sound than anything in the electronic signal chain. Also, try strumming over the soundhold (if you're not doing that already). This warms things up a bit too.
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Stephen Boyke

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