new daw need all the help before i install and assemble/new

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:44 pm

intel p4 650 3.4
asus p5ad2-e mobo
corsair xms2 1g 512x2
tru control antec 550 wt
160g western digital sata x2 raid0
200g western digital external hd
xfx nvidia 6600gt dual dvi-d
motu pci 424/motu 24I/O
sony 19" sdm-s94 lcd monitors x2
zalman 7700 copper
thermaltake va3000
sony 16x dvd/rw double layer
nuendo 2.0

Hey I just got all my gear today nothing has been installed does anybody have any crucial tips or advise for any of this. I am a newbee in the daw department, i have always gone analog. This comp is for recording only and will never touch the net. I could really use all help before I attempt to install all software drivers and hardware.

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:55 pm

Hey !

I am sorry to write you this, but PRAY, first of all...... I have been building computers forme and friends for more than 15 years now... as a hobby.. and when i decided I would do my DAW, i also bought the best gear at that time... to make the long story short.... you will never finish tweaking and adjusting...

I gave up a few months ago.... so I am shopping for an out of the box DAW solution... I might pay more, but at least i will have somebody to blame Smile

Anyway, I don't want to be so negative, I do have also heard good experiences.... so, its up to your knowledge and lots of luck !

Alex

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:08 pm

jimmyt12 wrote:

intel p4 650 3.4
asus p5ad2-e mobo
corsair xms2 1g 512x2
tru control antec 550 wt
160g western digital sata x2 raid0
200g western digital external hd
xfx nvidia 6600gt dual dvi-d
motu pci 424/motu 24I/O
sony 19" sdm-s94 lcd monitors x2
zalman 7700 copper
thermaltake va3000
sony 16x dvd/rw double layer
nuendo 2.0

Hey I just got all my gear today nothing has been installed does anybody have any crucial tips or advise for any of this. I am a newbee in the daw department, i have always gone analog. This comp is for recording only and will never touch the net. I could really use all help before I attempt to install all software drivers and hardware.

Good choice of components but return the MOTU and get a Fireface 800.

Also, we no longer like the Zalman coolers and as for DVDRW I would go; Plextor, Pioneer, NEC.

If you run into trouble give give us a call or blast an e-mail.

Joseph C.
sonica-x support.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:58 pm

i agree with Sonica other than 1 thing
well 2 the Zalmans are great
but more importantly the video card you chose will cause issues.
only an ATi X300, or Nvidia 6200 or lower are recommended for intel PCI-E systems. anything higher will cause decrease your audio ability as you increase your video card power.

see this thread
http://www.recording.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=26210&start=0
page 2 has the PCI-E stuff

and yes dump the Motu and get a fireface.

Scott
ADK

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 12:35 am

Yes, I used to think the Zalmans were great too but not any more.

They only support Prescotts up-to 540 and 650 in silent mode (1200 RPM).

There are other options that run at 600-900 RPM up-to 4.4GHz that don't violate Intel's spec by a factor of almost two, are 1/2 the cost and use Intel's standard mounting holes.

No more Zalmans for us.

Guy Cefalu
sonica-x support

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:10 am

http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005009

funny Zalman says it works.

Quote:

There are other options that run at 600-900 RPM up-to 4.4GHz that don't violate Intel's spec by a factor of almost two

how did you figure that?

R= X C/W or

ΨCA = (TC – TA) / TDP = (67 – 38) / 100 =
ΨSA = ΨCA − ΨCS = 0.29 − 0.10=

Scott
ADK

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:20 am

Is mechanical noise reduction important for ALL DAW needs ? I will not have an external signal input in my sistem, i will base everthing softsynth... is it also important ?

thanks

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:26 pm

[quote="ADK audio"]http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005009

funny Zalman says it works.

Quote:

There are other options that run at 600-900 RPM up-to 4.4GHz that don't violate Intel's spec by a factor of almost two

how did you figure that?

R= X C/W or

ΨCA = (TC – TA) / TDP = (67 – 3 Cool

/ 100 =
ΨSA = ΨCA − ΨCS = 0.29 − 0.10=

http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=146&code=005009

Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 5:52 pm

SONICA-X wrote:

There are other options that run at 600-900 RPM up-to 4.4GHz that don't violate Intel's spec by a factor of almost two, are 1/2 the cost and use Intel's standard mounting holes.

Hey Guy,

Man thats a pretty serious statement , 600-900 RPM and good to 4.4 Ghz ?

Have you actually managed to get a PIV to 4.4 GHz with passive cooling ?

I have personally achieved some awesome Noise/ Thermal results with a combination of a reputable heatpipe cooler, low noise fans and a custom TAC, but your statement seems extreme to me.

I'd love to be proven wrong :-)

BTW: What Size Fan is being utilised on the CPU cooler ?

Peace.

J.D

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:48 am

JayDee wrote:

SONICA-X wrote:

There are other options that run at 600-900 RPM up-to 4.4GHz that don't violate Intel's spec by a factor of almost two, are 1/2 the cost and use Intel's standard mounting holes.

Hey Guy,

Man thats a pretty serious statement , 600-900 RPM and good to 4.4 Ghz ?

Have you actually managed to get a PIV to 4.4 GHz with passive cooling ?

I have personally achieved some awesome Noise/ Thermal results with a combination of a reputable heatpipe cooler, low noise fans and a custom TAC, but your statement seems extreme to me.

I'd love to be proven wrong Smile

BTW: What Size Fan is being utilised on the CPU cooler ?

Peace.

J.D

Yes, serious and true!

Convination of fairly massive aluminun radiator style cooling element with 4 heat-pipes going through all elements and a 90mm fan running from 600-900 RPM controlled by system board.

This cooling solution will cool an intel P4 660 running at 95 % utilization to 49 C.

200 grams less than a Zalman 7700.

But please, lets not play this game here in the forums and turn this thread into a contest.

Peace.

Guy Cefalu
sonica-x

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:56 am

JayDee wrote:

SONICA-X wrote:

There are other options that run at 600-900 RPM up-to 4.4GHz that don't violate Intel's spec by a factor of almost two, are 1/2 the cost and use Intel's standard mounting holes.

Hey Guy,

Man thats a pretty serious statement , 600-900 RPM and good to 4.4 Ghz ?

Have you actually managed to get a PIV to 4.4 GHz with passive cooling ?

I have personally achieved some awesome Noise/ Thermal results with a combination of a reputable heatpipe cooler, low noise fans and a custom TAC, but your statement seems extreme to me.

I'd love to be proven wrong Smile

BTW: What Size Fan is being utilised on the CPU cooler ?

Peace.

J.D

Hey Jaydee,

probably this
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/itbu/cl-p0169/cl-p0169.htm

Scott
ADK

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:22 pm

Are you willing becoming an informatic engineer? Do you want to spend the first year trying to understand what works and what doesn't work?

It follows a SPAM from a Mac evangelist, don't read it, but trust him:
Just buy a Mac and start making music the same day.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:13 pm

are you still posting in here? i thought we ran you off.
where is that ignore button.

Scott
ADK

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:58 pm

ADK audio wrote:

JayDee wrote:

SONICA-X wrote:

There are other options that run at 600-900 RPM up-to 4.4GHz that don't violate Intel's spec by a factor of almost two, are 1/2 the cost and use Intel's standard mounting holes.

Hey Guy,

Man thats a pretty serious statement , 600-900 RPM and good to 4.4 Ghz ?

Have you actually managed to get a PIV to 4.4 GHz with passive cooling ?

I have personally achieved some awesome Noise/ Thermal results with a combination of a reputable heatpipe cooler, low noise fans and a custom TAC, but your statement seems extreme to me.

I'd love to be proven wrong Smile

BTW: What Size Fan is being utilised on the CPU cooler ?

Peace.

J.D

Hey Jaydee,

probably this
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/itbu/cl-p0169/cl-p0169.htm

Scott
ADK

Scott, close but twice as tall and the fan can not be in the top as it has to be in series with the PSU fan.

Guy.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:22 pm

Hey guy,

little confused, your not using BTX cases yet.
u trying to turn it to blow toward the power supply fan
and not use a rear case fan?

not a bad thought providing it keeps the inside cool enough.
with those 140 mm fans on those ps u use just might work.

Scott
ADK

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