Expert sugguestions on an advanced guitar recording setup

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:15 am

He only wants the thread nuked so he doesn't have to keep up the effort of being wrong!

As to the argument about analogue EQ's noise-floor, it looks to me that both are right, and looking at different things: One being the noise in a signal being processed, and the other, the noise-floor of of the equipment being used.

G

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:27 am

I've just been sad enough to save the whole thing for posteritude.

G

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:31 am

Bye JP... nice *not* knowing you.

G

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:36 am

...Alot can happen when you go home, then come back...

Just to calm the storm, he means Brains Faggots...

in reply to your reply (keeping the record straight)

Jp22 wrote:

duncanparsons wrote:

Compressors aren't generally memory hogs, tbh.

I completely disagree. Both Steinberg's multi-band ME Compressor as well as the Nuendo version are total CPU and memory pigs. Try one on a 1ghz computer with 8 tracks in Nuendo. Oink-oink! The programmer who made those obviously didn't care about cpu or memory management in the least. Its quite apparent.

You use tools to actually go in and see how much memory each dll is using? I do, but then I'm a developer, and such things are very useful to me. Your host may tell you the CPU usage per plug, but actual memory management is another matter. I could write a 5 line program for you which will take up less than 1k (code and data), but throw your CPU into orbit. A delay can hardly show on your CPU meter, but try to allocate memory chunks the size of China . To reiterate, CPU usage and Memory usage are separate entities, which often do cross paths, but are still separate. The compressors of which you speak may have a memory leak (which is common), and if this is the case you may experience problems..

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If you want a simple compressor, I cannot recommend 'Simple Squeeze' by BetaBugs enough (it's at the bottom of the page, again I'm assuming PC and VST). It has one knob, and does the job extremely well - a classic.

I'm curious, how many people in their right mind do you really think would download plugins with the prefix "beta" and the suffix "bugs" in it? Especially when at the bottom of that page link you posted it says "may harm your PC"! I would NEVER download a plugin like that!!! Exclamation

Eye candy maybe, but ear candy.... hardly likely - since considering it's competition its not very hard to weigh the two. Think about that one.

OK, thought about it. So have several thousand others, and they all seem pleased. I'm one of the BetaBugs developers, and whilst we use cartoon graphics, we take the DSP very seriously. BetaBugs is a joke name - these are a lighthearted aside to enliven ones dull studio day Smile

wrt to 'may damage your PC', well it's called a disclaimer, and pretty much every EULA has one (you do read them don't you - I guess you've agreed to M$ altering your OS without any further notice by using MediaPlayer v8 and beyond (it's in the EULA) Laughing

) Downloading anything is always a risk, no matter the source. We guarantee as far as we can that our plugs will be fine, but if your configuration is from Mars, we won't be held liable for something not working as planned. QED.

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a single pass of the text was sufficient to ascertain the required occurances of your two letter phrase (Good one for Scrabble(tm), btw Smile

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ATB
DSP

Keep in mind however though that this would be the 8.1.1 computer version of "Scrabble(tm)", not the one laying next to your grandma's dining room table.

My Grandma doesn't play, tbh, since she is terminally ill with cancer and lying in a bed in hospital; but you weren't to know that. An 'analogue' version of Scrabble(tm) will be far less restrictive as to what you can play. It may well be that the 'digital' v8.1.1 won't allow 'EQ' since it is an abbreviation, and std rules are not keen on that. But a light hearted, nay, jocular game with the odd glass of port amongst friends (with a pre-agreed set of bends to the rules, and a wise choice of dictionary) will surely allow for such things Smile

ATB
DSP

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:48 am

I say kick JP off this board. He's provided hilariously stubborn, deliberately provacative advocacy for ridiculous, unfounded theories at times, and it's been very entertaining. But when the racism and homophobia emerges, that's when I lose all fondness for the guy. Propogation of those ideas is totally unacceptable and utterly offensive. On top of that, I am by no means a prude, and the language in terms of swearing that has been used by JP AND by many others does not offend me in the slightest. But yes, as Dark suddenly realised, ANYONE can read this board. My 80 year old Mother has an interest in what I do, has the link for RO.ORG Children who may have ambitions to be recording musicians when they are older may be reading this stuff. What kind of impression does it give to people who were under the illusion that musicians are creative, intelligent people, who are able to express themselves through music, without needing to resort to such language? That includes Davedog and his attempt to curry favour among members by posting a stream of swear words to try to show how he is 'one of the guys'.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:31 am

Reggie wrote:

Jp22 wrote:

Reggie wrote:

You sir are rediculous. But you know that by now. Razz

You sir are obviously nowhere close to my genre of music, which requires alot more EQ'ing.... so if you find me "rediculous" then thats probably just the difference of the way you do things with the style of music you like (which i'm assuming is most likely african-american oriented). I sir, am high speed classical oriented with more distortion in one night than you use in an entire decade. SO, PISS OFF YOU ETHNIC MTV WUSSY!!!

Ha HA, actually I am the whitest of the white. Here is the back of my head: http://nationalaudiocompany.com/cdprinting.htm

And here is a metal band I recorded an album for recently (excuse the crap mp3's): http://www.myspace.com/leadbootmarathon

Freakin racist schmuck.....gonna get this awesome thread canned

JP, you have shown what you are all about. It is people like you that make this world a more hateful place. Sadly, you probably learned this attitude from you parents. In the cold light of truth, you should see yourself for what you are. Your ‘raison d'etre’ has been, to date, to stir the pot, which you have done quite well; however, you have used the wrong eq to trim the volume, sir.

Are you the kind of person that thinks African descendants have nothing to offer? I pity your ignorance. I would love to be a fly on the wall where you were the only person in a room. How would you handle this, I wonder. “Not well” is the resounding answer time and again. Perhaps there is hope for you, but I doubt it.

People like you think the rest of the world sees everything your way, so you assume no one would take offense at your insult. You and your ilk, sir, are a pox on mankind.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:35 am

Your homophobia is as obscene as your racism.

Have a great day, JP. You deserve it. You are everything good. Not. You are a fifteen-year old punk living in the shadow of your daddy. I am sure he and mommy are proud of you.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:08 am

JP - Thanks for giving me such entertainment. I must have gotten through half my months supply of Asthma inhaler drugs because I was laughing SO much !

I have to say that half way through this thread I was thinking that this whole thing was a PR stunt by the people who run this site to get more members but it appears to be one of thoes rare gems that turn up once in a blue moon.

Thanks for the laughs JP !

I wouldn't have thought to visit this site if it wasn't for this thread

( the homophobic comments are just an obvious ploy to get this embarrising thread deleted and forgotten - shame )

L.A.B.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:23 am

Ciderman wrote:

( the homophobic comments are just an obvious ploy to get this embarrising thread deleted and forgotten - shame )

L.A.B.

No doubt. Can't a mod just "clean up" his posts or something instead of wiping out the thread? I know it sucks policing, but this thread is almost worth it...

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:38 am

I'll get word to Davedog and get this cleaned up as best as possible.
I think we've been OT for the last 10 pages or so anyway.

Peace to all, welcome to RO all newcomers, thanks vets and mods for all their input.
This can't continue in its current state.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:12 am

JP ...Its a shame you find anger to be the only medicine you'll take. Up until this latest lashing out, I felt you had a right to make your statements in peace within the community. My warning to you was about something unrelated to the subject at hand and as you seem to want to embellish us all with your spite I have no choice. I dont care a single bit what you say about me as I'm very comfortable in my own skin. But you seem all out of sorts. Besides, at this point you've become a struggling liability to yourself. Before you were quaint and somewhat entertaining, but now having been exposed as the self-righteous bigot you are its time to end the fun.

Sorry kids.

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