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I rerecorded a cover of Transylvanian Hunger by Darkthrone in my solo project Degorrot. The whole song is finished by the guitar sounds fuzzy as hell. I used that piece of garbage DOD Death Metal Distortion pedal. I don't wanna rerecord the whole damn song again, is there anything I can do to reduce this fuzz or am I just gonna have to rerecord it with my Boss Metal Zone pedal Mad ?
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break out the guitar
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I'm a total newbie and was wondering about this question myself.

What about the possibility of EQing the fuzz out?
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i may be trying that if worst comes to worst but I doubt it will work unless someone knows a special technique.
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Ahh... the guitarist and his effects pedal. Won't you ever learn?

You are my arch enemy!! But I will defeat you!!!

But seriously lay of the damn gain and treble.

Don't be afraid of mids, they are you friends. trust me. Its better to have the Mid family there than not. I assure you they are very good party guests and they will kindly leave when asked. But the High family, they can be party crashers.

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haha aight man
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

if you record DI with a distortion pedal (not designed for specific DI use) you will almost always end up with pure fuzz. its cause natural (?) ways of capturing guitar result in the sub and 5k+ rolled off, which is a combo of the amp's tone, the cab, and the mic (mostly the cab). i mean these pedals ARE designed to be used in an amp, so of course theyre going to sound different because theyre expected to come out of that cab.

but theres hope. i was messing around with this one song this guy recorded purely with a DOD metal petal and it was nothing but bass and fuzz. i ran it through an EQ, then a guitar amp sim with low gain (like cranking to 1 on an amp, not enough to distort clean sounds) then more EQing and such. dont remember if i added verb but it can generally be a good idea since the parts will likely be dry and can add a sweeter sound to the mix, try lowish decay (under a sec, maybe 500ms) and if possible mix the decay lower (some verb units have volume for each part, such as trueberb). mostly the ERs will add a lot of smoothness to it. great for lead or centered parts since they can be very artificial sounding.

only EQing the signal will just make it sound flat. i really dont understand how mics and cabs and such alter the signal like they do, but i know you cant do it with just EQ. yes, ive tried, everything, to spruce up DI sounds (and continue to do so).

oh, using a bass amp simulator also can add character to it if you have one. i used that with a sansamp knockoff and it.. helped, even though it still sounds fuzzy.

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wouldnt I need a reamp box to do that?
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just a guitar amp plugin to run it through. honestly you will get crap sounds at best, and you are actually better off recording the guitar DI clean and using an amp plugin (like native instruments') than fixing a fuzzy DI.

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I'd definitely re-record it. It will take FAAAarrrr less time than trying to fix, and will give you infinitely better results.

Also, I'm completely with stickers. Metal-heads often think that scooped mids = killer metal tone. Not so! Use some of them mids to your advantage.

If you DO find that you need to scoop (I recommend keeping a bunch of mids anyhow, BUT every now and then it works!), you can always do it later. Mid boost pre-distortion followed by mid cut is a well-loved and well-used technique. Very Happy

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Yah, I'll just rerecord it.

BTW any setting on that DOD Death Metal Pedal will sound like total garbage, mids or no mids (thats why it costs like 20$ now). I keep my mids up though on my Metal Zone pedal.

Thanks for all your insight.
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Have you ever put way too much salt on your hamburger? You really can't wash it off without falling apart, you just have to fry, fry again. Remember, less is more! Try recording your guitar direct in and dry. Then take the output of the recorded track, go into your effects box, then into your amplifier, then put a microphone on that and either feed that into your audio console or back to an available open unrecorded track. Good luck and have fun Mr. Salty!
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