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    Default Which is better, VST or RTAS?

    Hello. I'd like to get a quick opinion from all of you. Which do you like better, and more importantly, WHY?


    VST?

    RTAS?
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    i need to design a system with as little latency as possible
    i'd like to find a good drum replacement program, and
    some good VST plug-ins

    any advice would be ve

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    Here is a very useless answer.

    Take two minutes and google what the difference is between vst and rtas, who can use them and who cannot, is there a vst to rtas converter and do I need it?

    I like to think of it as the "diy-answer poll".
    If I were you would you listen to me?

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    hi sorry, i've been researching for about 2 months now. clocked WELL over 2 minutes. more like, well, 2 months.

    normally, it doesn't matter cuz i'm not spending money. i LIKE research. but if i'm spending money, i'd like to not rely solely on myself.

    don't think of this post as a cop out. you don't even know me, or how much research i've already done. plus, i'm a songwriter, not a computer tech or an sound engineer. my job is lyrics and chords. if you were to ask me songwriting advice, i'd just give the advice. not tell you to learn chord theory or get a rhyming dictionary.

    don't post if you're not going to be helpful. that's just lame attempts for attention.

    attempting to point out another person's ignorance or laziness kinda backfires when you don't personally know who you're insulting.

    why even post a response like that? YOU don't google everything. otherwise you wouldn't be here either.

    does this mean i should just not bother with this forum at all? is that what this leads to? i could offered TONS of advice on the things i know how to do. i ask one question about something i dont' know about, and suddenly i'm lazy.


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    MAC QUAD CORE G5 WITH 16 GIGS RAM
    i'm stuck using a Mackie Onyx 1620 24bit 96k
    i need to design a system with as little latency as possible
    i'd like to find a good drum replacement program, and
    some good VST plug-ins

    any advice would be ve

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    As much as I appreciate the many free and decent VST's out there. I really don't think they compare to the majority of RTAS plug ins. I don't know if this is just my perception of the plugs because I bought into PtoTools or if they actually do sound better. For sure the basic D-Verb is better than any reverb I've heard in a free VST and the Bombfactory compressors are far more subtle than anything I've found in a free, included VST plugin.

    That being said, when you pay for good plugins (ie:Waves, UAD-1, TC-Powercore), They will sound good regardless of the format. It's just a matter of compatibility at that point.
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    Right. In your 2 months of research, you should have realised that:

    VST is a format of plugins for a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT platform than RTAS is.
    RTAS is for ProTools, VST is for everything else.

    Everything else in your post makes me want to double facepalm.

    Space's post IS helpful - he's asking if you actually know what the difference is between these 2. If you did, you would surely realise that the 2 are completely different and yet entirely similar beasts.
    They're both fish but one is a shark and one is a school of tuna.

    How do you compare those?
    I mean, I like tuna better, it's normally less vicious.

    Now, if all you want is a personal opinion, then why not make it clearer instead of asking which is better which to most people here will probably mean from a technical standpoint.

    It's still moot though, because you can't swap between them without a wrapper - meaning it's entirely down to what platform you use.
    I use Kristal on a PC and therefore I use freeware VSTs. I find that they're my only choice and it's not something I spend time considering.
    Curious button pushing Church sound guy.

    I'd like to clarify, SoundBlasters will do the job.
    But they'll do a bloody awful one.

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    Rainyday: Give it a chance. There are some jaded people on this forum and rightly so. There are a lot of pirates and just thick headed people out there. Sift through the resent though and there are some gems of information if your question is presented the right way.

    Incidentally, I don't think it was a bad or inappropriate question in any way.
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    Who gives a ****.
    Plugins suck.

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    Bad use of plugins suck.

    Used correctly, they can improve and do things that are completely awesome.
    Curious button pushing Church sound guy.

    I'd like to clarify, SoundBlasters will do the job.
    But they'll do a bloody awful one.

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    I think the question is valid if you have yet to choose a platform. Maybe he's in between DAWs. I use both but I prefer the RTAS plugins I do have with the odd exception(Magix Variverb Pro).
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    Dayam... who opened the nasty gate this morning???

    Sheese...

    rainy's admitted being a relative noob... while fun can regularly abound in blasting newbs. (A joyous past time in some haunts) it generally stay's pretty civil here.

    However, I will say that there quite a few folks around here who see a bombardment or newbie-esque, over simplified and relatively inane styled questions, and it's not quite calling the sharks... (chumming real good and heavy, MIGHT, call one or two biggin's in to chew some ass) but otherwise, it's more like chumming Koi with bread crumbs.

    Seriously, if you need to know the basics, just ask in one decent conversational post. Folks do share here... most of the time.

    Looks like you can hold your own, so I prolly don't need to say much more than welcome to the fray... and it's ok to put complex issues in one post... If they can't handle it... well... at least you only wasted your time in one thread.

    Personally, I stay in TDM except for Echo Boy and McDSP, so I'm not really gonna be of much help.
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