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    Okay...so my first on location computer was a cool little micro ATX in an Antec Aria. It worked great (still does - I use it in my studio as the main machine). However, it's pretty far from quiet and it is a pain to haul around. Plus, adding extra cards - nah...there are 3 slots available and if I fill more than 2, the thing MAJORLY overheats...

    My next one (current one) is a laptop but I've had some minor issues.

    I decided to go with a home-built rackmount system. The biggest challenge I had was finding a rackmount system that will fit in a SKB transit case.

    Here's what I put together:

    Proc - Intel Core2 Quad (L775) 2.4 GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017

    Mobo - ASUS P5Q with P45 NB
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131347

    RAM - 4 GB (2x2GB) Corsair
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145215

    Case - 4U server chassis - Rosewill
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147100

    Video - Asus el cheapo (I know people are going to ding me here - I don't care. I don't want or need good video - I just need video - single monitor...that's it.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121259

    Hard Drives -
    System Drive - 160GB SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM
    Audio Drive - same only 250 GB

    CD/DVD Burner - Plextor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827249043

    OS - MS Win XP Pro 64 Bit

    CPU Cooler - Nexus
    http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/...i4AUI&mv_pc=33
    I need the lighter weight fan since I'll be taking this on the road a LOT. Heavier fans don't do so well with shock on top of the processor.

    Case fans:
    Nexus 80mm -
    http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/...i4AUI&mv_pc=33
    Noctua 120mm -
    http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/...4AUI&mv_pc=181

    I also ordered the silicone gaskets for both sizes.


    Power Supply:
    Nexus 500W. I know I could have gotten bigger, but based on what's going in here, I'm pretty sure 500W is more than I need.
    http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/...4AUI&mv_pc=241


    I also added a SIIG Firewire card, a SIIG USB 2.0 front bay-mounted USB hub.

    The whole thing, with the SKG 8 space rack, a slide out drawer (which I'll velcro the monitor to and slide it out and pop it up when needed) set me back about $1300.

    Once it's up and running (probably next weekend) I'll post back.

    In the mean time, please feel free to comment and critique.

    Cheers-
    J.

    PS -
    Bear in mind - I'm not into the "You could have gotten this processor for $80 more" or "Dood-that video card won't play Duke Nukem very well." I just care about how it does for audio only. The processor was chosen for a few reasons - its mean core temperature and operating voltage which will help keep temps down and because it is a quad core. Yes, I could have gone octo-core I7, but then I'd have to alter the MOBO choice and RAM choice. Both of which started adding up quickly and neither assured me compatibility with my older version of Sequoia.

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    I myself use 2 250 Barracudas. I have heard that they have some reliability issues once you get to the larger two platter disks.

    Other than that, the P5 is a quick MB and that Q6600 is a beast, my friend gets the clock to 3.0 ROCK SOLID stable, like the most stable I have ever seen, on air alone.

    And, did you check on drivers for your DAW for XP64?
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    I didn't check for 64 compatibility. I figure if it doesn't work, I'll load that on another machine and move to XP 32 bit. Of course I'll pull out one of the sticks of RAM if I do.

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    I'd leave it in, it's not doing any harm - and you can access up to 3326MB (well, I can) with a 32bit OS.
    Curious button pushing Church sound guy.

    I'd like to clarify, SoundBlasters will do the job.
    But they'll do a bloody awful one.

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    I've had minor issues with that before - 2x2GB sticks in a 32bit system getting memory blue screens.

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    It should be a solid system. I would have gone for one of the 45nm processors as they use less voltage and generate less heat, but they are just a bit more expensive too.

    500 watts should be plenty. I went with 850 under the (possibly incorrect) assumption that if I have a super powerful power supply it won't have to work very hard to keep everything working properly and thus generate less heat/noise. So far so good.

    I'm still scared to put a computer into a mobil rack. They get jostled around, bumped dropped etc and I just would be worried about having my computer in one. But if you are the guy doing all the lugging around, you can keep an eye on it and take care of it.
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    some of those road cases come with a 'floating' shock absorbing mount. not sure if that is better for a computer, however...

    http://www.finecases.com/browse/gato...ases-3610.html

    it has more ventilation, which would be another bonus...

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    I just want to know why you don't want to be a little bit more practical? Like say, a decent laptop? I know you're a perfectionist but, it is the 21st-century we're into. They're so much more reliable than everything that can shake loose with all that stuff, before your job. We're not talking about a Mac book Pro, at $1000 more. We're talking about the average crap we all use. Oh? Right. The crap I use.

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    I'm not terribly worried about shock and impact. I'm always the one who handles my case. Also, I've seen how computers are handled in shipping - the little bit of bumping around that I'll subject it to won't be a problem.

    Remy -
    Practicallity is exactly what I'm aiming for. I haven't been very pleased with the laptops that I've been working with. First, I don't know the hardware that is going into this stuff - even on the high-end audio only laptops. Second, I can't really add too much - I can't add UAD cards, e-SATA cards, and other daughter cards.

    In the near future, I plan on upgrading to either a Pyramix system or a Sonoma system - both require full form-factor PCs.

    Also, I really don't like having a single point of failure being a cable that sticks rather flimsily 2.5" outside of the chassis (firewire plus Express Bus card).

    My new setup will be a fully redundant rig -
    Preamp with dual outputs per channel.
    1 set of outputs going to the AD Converter and into the computer
    1 set of outputs going to an analog summing buss and into an A/D converter and into a dedicated 2-track recorder.

    Ideally, I'd think the 2 track, if mixed well, would be the ideal mix. However, the computer still needs to be powerful. I do a lot of recording at 192kHz. Sometimes as many as 24+ tracks. I've not had great luck with my laptops running that hard without hiccups.

    Besides, the weight is going up from my current setup, but the amount of crates won't.

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    What interface/type/cable are you planning to get 24+ tracks at 192 into the computer?

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