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Hello,
I am trying to determine what I need to buy to make a halfway decent studio for my band. Can anyone help? My budget is roughly 1500 to 2000 bucks. Ideally, I would like to use a mixer and computer. Do I need something to go between the mixer and computer? I have a computer with windows xp. Can I use that? Also, I have a nice size room that I am going to build a recording booth in. I have many questions but I'll start with those. Thanks!
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You've got a computer...good. We don't need to get into it's full specifications, but just for the heck of it, what processor does it have, how much ram, and do you have multiple hard drives? How about recording software?

When recording with a computer, there's no real need for a mixer, it can be done ITB (in the box), but you do need an audio interface, something to get the audio in to and out of the computer.

Figure out how many channels/tracks of audio you need to record at one time (simultaneously). Do you plan on recording a full set of drums with each drum mic'd? Are you going to record drums, bass, guitar, vocals and trombone all at the same time? Knowing these things will help you determine how many channels you need.

If you plan on recording basic tracks then doing overdubs for each part, you can probably get buy with just having 4 channels. If you want to record from more than 4 sources at once, you probably want to go for 8 channels. There are some good USB and Firewire audio interfaced available. You just need to find out what your requirements are then we can make some recommendations.

A lot of audio interfaces come with bundled software, so you may be able to save money there buy buying an interface that comes with the recording software.
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What kind of computer do you have? Does it have a firewire port? How much ram does it have?
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My computer has a pentium II with 480 MB ram. I'm thinking I may need another one huh? It has no firewire port. Only one hard drive. I haven't gotten any recording software yet.

I will be needing many channels more than 8. Unfortunately my band is in a relationship with a drummer who loves his art and has several drums more than your average drummer and he uses them all. The drums would take up at least 7 or 8 mics. I may be able to convince him to key it down for recording. But I will be recording "live" bands and also over dubbing after. (this is why I thought a mixer would come in handy) Do interfaces come with this many channels? Is the MIX done on the comp with the software? I got to head out for work know. See ya
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Get yourself a Mackie Onyx 1640 with the firewire and do something with that computer. (Or get a better one) Great little start at recording your band live. Firewire interface and good mixer to boot. It comes with software too.

You'll have to save alitttle more money!

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My suggestion would be to work on your two best songs until you have them down cold and then book some time in a pro studio. You'll get a good demo out of it and a lot of education.

Your idea of how you want to record is way out of line with your budget. You are talking about the most equipment intensive and (arguably) most difficult type of recording. Your budget would put constraints on a singer/songwriter. If your goal is to record one band, you will spend a lot more money on equipment and a ton more time doing it yourself.

If you are interested in recording as an end in itself, by all means jump in. But a trip to the recording studio is cheap education and well worth it in either case.
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You know, after hearing all this I think maybe my best bet is to go to a studio and also maybe getting myself a digital workstation like the Tascam 2488 MKII or the Korg D3200.
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hey man what i would do is find yourself a Presonus Firestudio, some type of ADAT lightpipe converter, and possibly a new computer. that will give you up to 16 channels to multi-track... i dont know if you would have a need for more than that. if you order from musicians friend i think you get free software with the firestudio. check it out. you may have some cash to spare.... buy some good mics.

here are some things you might want to check out.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/PreSonus-Firestudio-26x26-Firewire-Recording-System?sku=241848
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-ADA8000-Ultragain-Pro8-ADA-Converter?sku=182483
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/SMPro-Audio-A08-ADAT-Lightpipe-Converter?sku=240162
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thanks!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey, how about this.

What if I ran everything through a decent mixer like a Behringer eurodesk then ran that into an inexpensive digital 4 track recorder. Or put the drums (about 7 or 8 mics) through a mixer then using left and right outputs to 2 tracks of a 4 track recorder, bounce them down and have three tracks left to use for the bass, guitar and vocals. Know what I mean? I am not looking for super pro quality here. Just a decent demo recording.

I know it would be a nightmare doing the final mix but what do you think?
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You don't have to mic every single piece of the drum set. 3 to 4 mics is really all you'll ever need. Search this site for drum micing techniqes, you'll find loads of info.
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Mixer wise I'd suggest an Alesis Firewire. They come in 16, 12, and 8 track versions.
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Depends on what your goals are, if you want to do it fast go to a studio.

It's going to take time to learn the craft, and acquire enough equipment, also you need a good space for the best results.

Do you feel confident that you will do it right the first time?

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How about getting one of the all in one recorders, like a boss br-900?..

Then grab a few half decent mics and your away, without even thinking about a computer Razz
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I am going with an all in one Willie. Thanks!
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