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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

directresolution wrote:
I would agree for recording studios/home use but the question was about live audio, having the saftey net of one drive being able go down and still carry on recordnig could be a big plus during a gig etc.


For backup I would always say to go with NAS or firewire drive options, you have to backup away from the computer for any sort of peace of mind.


we do a lot of live rigs. 128 track madi systems.
best rule is redundant rigs. not redundant drives.
most live on tour guys will have some 2nd back up like adat machines

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ADK audio wrote:
Raid is a complete waste for most audio users.
Nuendo/Cubase/PT all can write to seperate drives.
EG: track 1-60 drive E, 61-120 Drive F
and samples should ALWAYS be on their own drive never sharing a raid array with audio.

the only time raid 0 is needed is for very high track count live recording
EG: 80-192 tracks.

or large projects with 96K.
a single drive can do over 100 tracks @ 48k.

disk streaming samples can benefit from raid.

redundant raid is pointless, back you projects up an ext disks.

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I understand where you're coming from. I built a server for our home network that has a six disc RAID 10 array using 400GB drives. I like RAID10 because it's fast and fully redundant. I keep our entire digital image archive there as well as ~300GB of MP3s and master copies of completed video projects. Hard drives are super cheap these days, even RAID-specific drives like those I'm using. Still, I use external discs to back up everything as you suggest. It's great to have backups that have no path to AC spikes. I learned the hard way.
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My position would be, with drives so cheap now you can have a raid 10 running for an extra £80 so why not have redundant drives and if budget allows a redundant rig?

Anyway I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

HI MC3DPCS,

my HTPC i have 1 TB of storage. one of the 2 500G is imaged. (stuff we want to keep) the other is 500 is more temp.

on our webserver/file server i use Raid 5 (to me the only good raid) and i have a redundant system.

so
1) i have HOT swap if 1 drive dies
2) i have an up to date daily, complete system to switch to should the other poop out.
3) both servers and the linux firewall each have imaged drives to another drive (that we switch out weekly) and an image on DVD's
now thats back up!

the issue i have with raid (even on a good controller and the only way i agree with it) is raid arrarys can be tempermental.
i have seen just 1 drive die and take the raid 0+1 with it. unable to rebuild or recover.
ask Chuck Ainlay!

i have also sent out numerous raid 0 for live and i dont think we have ever had 1 fail.
so....

personally i dont recommend it unless nessesary.

on the other hand i had my samples drives in raid 0 for 3 yrs.

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