topology

insignificant other Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 94

the point is that ASIC is an extremely broad term, don't know why you are trying to argue that when all i am trying to do is seek a path towards enlightenment through recording.org. thanks for reducing my posts and overall knowledge to 'shot-gun guesses.'

you're right mixed-signal wasn't predominant in the 80's because A/D itself hadn't progressed substantially, but one of my topics of discussion was the mytek converters.

and no as we are seeing in this topic just because something uses (even digital) ASIC does not mean it's digital audio. in fact did moonbaby not (somewhat appropriately) consider the EL-8 analog. despite the fact that the pcm 70 uses a digital ASIC PCM in the mix, i have a hard time characterizing it as digital even though PCM is digital. it's both digital and analog (something i previously referred to as 'digital modeling' whether that's right or wrong), which is why the intricacies of this discussion can not be summed up with merely ASIC.

how would discrete/monolithic properties not apply to digital effects made any day? most of the IC chips we are talking about were designed in the 60's. i don't get where you are going with this, so i'm just going to wait to hear back from remy given that she has been slightly more helpful thus far and has just verified that indeed discrete/monolithic "as i seem to coin the terms" are used differentially in the products of any day

p.s. i have a distressor (and that's one...) so please stop trying to judge me and let's enhance this discussion if it should prove beneficial to the topic.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:58 am

With due respect to Remy, I am certainly am no sloutch with having 20+ years of semiconductor experience. But I don't get into it that much around here as there are better places where such things are discussed in detail.

In any case, if you can't understand that a device such as a digital reverb processor like the PCM70 that uses an ASIC is considered a digital device and that the EL-8 is a pure analog device with some digital control, then you'll have to go back a few steps and re-review some basics before you can go forward.

insignificant other Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 94

audiogaff, give me an example of a place where things are discussed in such detail in the form of a hyperlink.

what's the difference between the topolgy involved with the pcm70 and el-8? both have very similar circuitry integrated sections, pcm digital sections, and discrete sections...

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:50 am

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audiogaff, give me an example of a place where things are discussed in such detail in the form of a hyperlink.

Your kind of funny. I'm glad your able to laugh at yourself. Ya, like I'm going to be the one dumb enough or cruel enough to pass a troll like you on to any hi-tech forums where highly educated mature engineers discuss audio, DSP or ASIC technology.

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