Waves comes down heavily on cracked plugs users

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:38 pm

check out this link.
is it about time or are they spinning their wheels in vain?
http://www.prosoundnewseurope.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=463&Itemid=26

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:03 pm

HELL Yeah!!

It's about friggin time!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:56 am

Although I do not agree with their undercover actions I do agree fully with the intent to STOP ILLEGAL SOFTWARE PIRACY. *

I and others on this forum have to compete with the person down the street or on the web who is using cracked software and offers their clients rates that are ridiculously low because they have no overhead.

Every piece of software I have has been bought and paid for. I am glad WAVES have stepped up to the plate and started doing this. Maybe others will start doing the same thing.

It is about frigging time.....

*The problem is that they said they were clients and did not identify themselves as WAVE employees or tell what their real motives were. Since I do not use cracked or pirated software I could care less if someone wants to check up on me by posing as a client but I do think it kinda crosses the line. They are NOT police or interpol or the CIA and I am not a lawyer but I think that information they gathered may not stand up in a court of law since it was gathered using deception. As I say I am not a lawyer so I really don't have any idea of the legal ramifications of this action. I do know that this is becoming a major problem not only in the music software business but in software in general and has gotten really bad in the past couple of years.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:28 am

I can't "not say this". I have become very cinical regarding people's motives/actions lately. "everybody does it..." it not justfication for anything - but anacharcy.
Our society can only exist if we "participate" throught mutual respect for each other and commonly accepted practices(re: intelectual property rights are among many).
I have encountered more people on this forum that understand this than I realized existed. My hat's of to you - you know who you are.

Re: Undercover investigations - if the government doesn't "protect" you're property who else but you?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:48 am

I think they are fully justified in cracking down, and I think it is a lot more likely to be successful than the RIAA crackdown on music downloads. I'm not disturbed by the undercover methods. These are commercial establishments, open to the public. There isn't a legal or moral obligation for potential customers to reveal how "serious" they are, is there? They aren't really doing much different than I would by going into a Jaguar dealership and kicking the tires.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:50 am

No mercy from me either. While it is still not justified, it is one thing to be an illegal home wanker but if you are running a public commercial studio and have or use cracked/illegal software, you deserve to get caught and pay for your crimes plain and simple. Since there is no real patroling software police to deal with this issue, any investigation techniques used in discovering this illegal activity is pretty much justified in my book. Perhaps public commercial studios should be subject to software audits like big corporations are.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:27 am

AudioGaff wrote:

Perhaps public commercial studios should be subject to software audits like big corporations are.

This sounds like a passable idea!

For every commercial release, the studio should have to submit logs of the software used for each track. Hell, I keep those logs already, it wouldn't be hard for me to strip out the settings and simply send out the name of each processor!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:49 am

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For every commercial release, the studio should have to submit logs of the software used for each track.

Nice idea, software companies would probably pay lots to succesfull producers to be on their lists Wink

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While it is still not justified, it is one thing to be an illegal home wanker but if you are running a public commercial studio and have or use cracked/illegal software, you deserve to get caught and pay for your crimes plain and simple.

I'm afraid that there are millions of home wankers and that they are more dangerous to music industry than all the commercial studios with illegal software. Anyway I think Waves have done the right thing. Thumbs Up

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:34 pm

No one should be able to get a way with it wanker or otherwise, but public commercial studio crosses the line the twice to both use and profit from the illegal software on a larger scale. They also make a much bigger and easier target and likely have the money/assets to go after to make it worthwhile.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:25 pm

I bet some of you guys remember when we first started using the Aphex Aural Exciter, you were charged by the minute for completed work through the unit. OMFG!

Maybe the software/hardware manufacturers, should create some kind of coin box that must be connected to the computer and you'll have to put quarters in it in order to use your computer and software and must keep putting quarters in until you're done with your production? I've seen those movies! Not much fun with a single quarter.

Do you need some change?
Ms. Remy Ann David

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:34 am

RemyRAD wrote:

Maybe the software/hardware manufacturers, should create some kind of coin box that must be connected to the computer and you'll have to put quarters in it in order to use your computer

Yes...but will it vibrate for 3 minutes per quarter?

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