Instruments in the studio

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:04 am

taxman wrote:

As for amps, you definitely don't want a Frontman 212. I am not dissing solid state amps. The problem is that at 100 watts it is way to loud for a studio, also dual speakers makes it harder to mike without inteference from the second speaker.

You only need 5 to 15 watts for a recording amp. Recommendations are fender Blues Jr at 18, or a Roland Cube at 15 or 20. Guitarists can bring their own pedals.

being a HUGE fan of recording with a fender twin, I fully disagree!

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:54 am

I kinda liked Tech 21 Trademark 30. The demo that they provided sounds pretty good, price is not far from budget too. Anyone tried?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:20 am

if i were you, i'd just wait.

i've played a bunch of amps, and bought a bunch of amps, but that's because i would look for what sounded the best for my budget. i later realized that it had to be the other way around to really give me what i wanted. like my last amp, for example. i wanted a combo that could give me nice cleans (i'm a jazz guitar major in school) that would give me enough output to fill a concert hall, but still sound good in my dorm room, so i was thinking a 2x12. i played 'em all: fender, marshal, roland, line 6. i finally settled for a vox ac30. it ended up being just over a grand, but damn, that thing is gorgeous. it worked for me and i think it'll end up working for you.

now, once you find that amp, be it the fender or an ac15 or whatever, you can find cheaper ways of getting the amp than GC or Sam Ash.
1) ebay. not everyone's into it, especially for amps, but i'm down with it.
2) pawn shops. this is easier if you don't have a specific amp in mind but a general category (1x12 tube for example). see what you can find. some have great mics too.
3) classifieds. nowadays, this is so easy, people a just too stupid to realize it...me included. with online newspapers, myspace, facebook, and craig's list out there now, it's easier than you can imagine.

i hope that helps you out a little dude. if you need any more help on where to look pm me or something. just remember, it's all about what YOU want, don't settle for less.

-dave

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:38 am

Thank you for your huge detailed answer.
The problem with ebay and amps... shipping sometimes raises the cost so much that why not get a new one for just a little more. I have a home studio (2 rooms) with some decent equipment (for the home studio). I don't have a huge client base that are waiting in line to record in my studio. Neither do I play guitar (I am pretty good at bass though, that is why I have pro bass equipment). I want to get a decent amp so that people do not have to bring their 4x12s into the studio. So i know know ac30 is sweet but dude it is a GRAND. To much for biology majoring student Thumbs Up

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:46 am

oh i know dude, it's a lot. and i wasn't trying to tell you to get an ac30 either. i'm just saying, find what you want and then get it if you know you're gonna use it for a long time. ebay also has in their advanced search a way to limit it to local auctions. try myspace classifieds and facebook too. there's a ton of stuff over there.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:50 am

oh i know dude, it's a lot. and i wasn't trying to tell you to get an ac30 either. i'm just saying, find what you want and then get it if you know you're gonna use it for a long time. ebay also has in their advanced search a way to limit it to local auctions. try myspace classifieds and facebook too. there's a ton of stuff over there.

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:58 pm

Salt Lake city myspace does not have anything ... yeah...

I really don't know what I need Even when I am able to charge people on a regular basis, I will not be able to charge more than $30-$40 an hour. So I really don't know what price should I look at. I really don't want to end up with expensive combo that will have no use due to lack of customers, neither I want a piece of crap that cannot be used... Roland micro cube sounds nice but do I need all that modeling? If guitarists have their own FX than I need an amp that will sound good clean and with outboard distortion. I am really confused right now.... Again About the drums what drum set is good enough for home studio use? Our drummer has Tama Rock Star. I like how it sounds.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:49 pm

Well I guess back to this question again... got a power Mac instead of everything... Thumbs Up

So anything in $200 range? I just don't want to loose any client that might no have their own amp. Which is probably going to be the majority of my clients.. You know beginning home studio.

So once again tube or solid state, speaker size, and direct advises of the products appreciated. I promise I will get Fender Blues Jr as soon as I will earn money doing recordings.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:21 pm

Use craigslist to find a decent tube combo amp, and make the drummers bring in their own stuff.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:23 pm

Even drums?
I just don't know what is appropriate and what is not

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:16 pm

http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/msg/628333822.html checkout this is it worth it? i am sure I will be able to get them for 75... Or is it just a waste of money?

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:33 pm

Run away!

...OK, buy the base drumsticks, then run away!

WTF is a base drumstick, anyway?

Symbol is a manufacturer of barcode readers, now owned by Motorola. Those Sabian B8 Symbols that he's selling might be worth something, though they look a heck of a lot different than the Symbol readers I have.
If anyone wants to buy a Motorola Dark Ride, let me know...
Laughing

I hope to hell music isn't his major.

Seriously, I'd grab 'em for $75, nothing wrong with that.
Re-skin them and tune them, get some Moongel and a new strainer for the snare, you're set...

A decent Ludwig kit will run you a hell of a lot more than that.

I have a B8 thin crash cymbal, and I use it fairly often.

You could do worse.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:42 pm

what do you think of the Fender Vibro Champ XD
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-VibroChamp-XD-120V-Guitar-Combo?sku=483069

Or should just buy bluebird mic for example and make everyone else to bring their own equipment?

So many choises... who the hell knows what is the right one...

EDIT: Basically I don't want something like champ collecting dust if most of the people will bring their own equipment... same applies to drums... makes me want to shout myself...

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:50 pm

If we're gonna tell you every piece to buy for your space then we need to be given a cut of the action.

Can stock be traded via Paypal?

I've been playing on a Line6 Flextone (2x12) a lot over the past couple months and really dig it (oh, it has it's quirks, believe me), but I dig it nonetheless.

I hear the Flextone 1x12 (100 bucks less) is good.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:51 pm

Ya gotta have an in-house kit, and amp.

And other things, but until I get my stock certificate, I'm keeping my mouth (or rather - keyboard) shut!

Wink

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