XY vs Recorder Man for poor acoustic room

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:27 am

I think you clipped, somehow, in your DAW.
I dunno, maybe I'm talking out of my ass now, but I believe it would have been better to clip at the input.
Or, is it possible you did clip at the input and that's what I'm seeing?
Do you know where the clipping happened?
Was it In The Box, or prior to it?

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:29 am

I have no idea dude.

We weren't really paying much attention to detail we did this in about 2 hours.

Clipping shouldnt occur anywhere really, correct?
The "lars" snare sound isnt from clipping its from a mic we placed up a stair case.

Garage Band doesnt have a wave editor, but I wasn't aware of very much clipping during the process, perhaps at the end the final mix was clipping for sure I wouldnt doubt that but the individual tracks we didnt know.

I always try to track at about 3/4 to 0. So most likely it happened in the mixing.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:38 am

Well, I wasn't really talking about the snare sound. I'm more concerned with the kik.

But, both are definitely clipped.

Quote:

Clipping shouldnt occur anywhere really, correct?

That's not necessarily true. In digital land it's bad, but in analog, sometimes 'clipping' or more appropriately 'saturation' is a good thing. This is why I asked you where you think you might have clipped your signals. If it was at the pre, that might not be so bad. If you did it in Garage Band, ooops, probably not the best idea...

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:40 am

Most likely in Garageband.
Yes the kick is highly processed. Compressed, EQ'd like crazy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:48 am

I opened my garageband project and found that the snare batter mic is clipping, but the kick mic has much room for boosting before clipping.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:49 am

Eh, oh, well then.

I mean, it's not bad...

Just try to get at those saturated sounds before you hit your DAW, OK?

Clip is not your friend, much as he'd like to make you think he is...

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:53 am

Haha well to be honest I had read that clipping up into the +6 range is ok for digital. Now garageband doesn't have numbers just a visual reference and I cannot see beyond 0 so there is no way to tell.

Im not trying to clip, but I guess that for some reason the snare cant be heard in the mix until its at the levels we set them at.

I always read and believed that there are no rules, if it sounds good to you, you have done it right, but I do suppose you are right too, I mean speakers do have limits!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:56 am

Right.
Cool.

Smoke break!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:57 am

Yea im going to bed.
Good chat, thanks for the help!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:02 am

Anytime!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:10 am

I don't want to beat a dead post, but I'd just like to apologize for my initial comments, Patrick_Like_Static. This is a friendly forum with people who are just trying to help and I should have known better. However, being that I played the guitars on the track and was involved in the tedious process of getting what we thought was a good "real" drum sound and recording it, I evidentally took it a bit personal.

We're not audio experts and most likely weren't aware that the clipping of a track would invoke such a heated debate. We were proud of our results only to see our hard work and effort's "authenticity," if you will, put on the spot.

In the future, I promise to be more mature in my responses to such posts. However, this problem would have been easily avoided from the get-go had the greivance regarding "sampling" been formatted as a question rather than an accusation. We would've been glad to answer a question such as "are you guys using samples on your drums?"

-Dan

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:43 pm

Ya I wrote that anyway, the real sleightofhand didnt HAHA!

This topic sponsored by: