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I need a proffesional alternative on my on-the-road-recording-rigg.
I need a PRO result from a BUDGET buy.

I've been looking at alot of open source stuff, Cubase, and so forth but cant make up my mind.

There will be NO edition, just pure recording.

This are the criterias.

MUST HAVE:
Compatible with my MOTU ASIO devices.
16channels at once.
110% Stabile with recordings that can exceed 5 hours in one take.
Be able to export to separate tracks or a format that is compatible with Nuendo.

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16 track X 5 hours is gonna take one bigass drive...

CUBASE is excellent regarding stability. I had an LE edition that came with interface, purchased SE-3 real cheap and I'm pleased.
Outputs .WAV file which NUENDO will import.
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16 track X 5 hours is gonna take one bigass drive...

CUBASE is excellent regarding stability. I had an LE edition that came with interface, purchased SE-3 real cheap and I'm pleased.
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Not sure about the ASIO drivers, but the latest version of Cakewalk seems insanely cheap at $49. I was just looking at it, coincidently . (They just merged with Roland, FWIW).

It seems to do MIDI as well as Digital Audio multitrack, and I can't imagine that it would NOT support ASIO. Worth a look-see, at that price, for sure....

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Cubase would be greate, If i can get it at the right price. That would be VERY compatible with Nuendo.

And cakewalk for $49 is next to free... Interesting.
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Tracktion 3 Project Bundle. About $150. No limitations other than what is determined by the power of your machine. Supports ASIO and the latest VST. Midi editing. Only one issue: it doesn't export to OMF.

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I can handle no OMF, even thow i WOULD like to see that. But on these projects the setup is thought of recording there is, as said, no edition so every track would be a continous audio stream.
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Something you need to consider is that there are file size limitations imposed by certain operation sytems and drive formats. I know with Windows and a FAT32 drive, you're limited to 4 Gig file. How big is a 5 hour long file???? NTSF may have limits as well. I'm not a Mac guy, so don't know what or if the limitations might be.
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1minute of 44.1x16bit mono = aplrox 5mb.
60 minutes equals: 302MB
5 hours equals: 1.514MB

32bit system can handle 2048MB big files. So im safe Very Happy
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Hans, I just re-read your original post....FIVE HOURS?!?!?!

I'm almost afraid to ask what you're recording that will last that long.... it's not a peformance of John Cage's "As Slow as Possble", is it??? Twisted Evil

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2728595.stm

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Mainly bandevents/Live. But also conferences, lectures, standup. Whatever needs documentation.
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No more Cage PLEASE!

I have to admit I love this quote:

"The performance follows a legal case in which composer Mike Batt was forced to pay a six-figure sum to Cage's publishers, who accused him of plagiarising a silent piece of music. "

Anyone who has ever recorded 5 minutes of silence is guilty of plagiarising 4:33?

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How can you say it sounds the same when you cant hear anything?
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That's a very good point, although I think they sued them for the "Concept" more than the content.

Still, a savvy lawyer should have been able to get them off, based on a few intangibles.

What if they claimed a different key, instrumentation, or time signature as well? Twisted Evil

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HansAm wrote:
1minute of 44.1x16bit mono = aplrox 5mb.
60 minutes equals: 302MB
5 hours equals: 1.514MB

32bit system can handle 2048MB big files. So im safe Very Happy


Got'yer math a bit wrong, there, I'm afeared.

5MBx60min=~300MB
300MBx5 hours=~1500MB=~1.5GB, per track

1.5GBx16tracks=~24GB total size.

Just to clear that up Wink

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