hey guys..i am new here...pro tools hd2

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:55 pm

i ve been recording in my home studio for many years
i used an rme fireface 800 and rme mictasy mic preamp all these years
but now i am going to open my own pro studio

here is my setup now

APPLE MAC PRO 8 CORE 3,2GHZ
AVALON VT-737SP
FOCUSRITE RED 1
AMS NEVE 1073 DPD
TUBE-TECH MEC

neumann..shure and akg mics

and klein + hummel monitors

i ve reached a point that i think i should work with pro tools
i ve never used the before...and i want some opinion..
i know for sure that i ll get the hd 2
but i dont know what interface or interfaces i should have that will go better for my setup
should i go with the 192 plus and 8 analoge input expansion card..
or for two 96 and a good converter?
sorry for my english guys if they are not so good..i am greek..hehe

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:05 pm

Having never played with ProTools myself, I'm not going to handle this one, but let it pass on to other wiser and more experienced. Then why did I even answer? Damit!

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:33 pm

Like basilbowman I've never used ProTools, but the general opinion here is that ProTools is expensive and horrible to use. It's only used because of corporate domination, really.
If you're set on it, fair enough.

However, 192KHz is a joke IMO. For most needs you're better to stick with 96KHz and cut your processing and disk space needed in half, yet still retaining at least 99% of noticable quality.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:43 am

hmmmm...i see...thats why i am confused!
i dont know what interface..or interfaces will go for my setup

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:28 am

hey!!!
79 views and no suggestions?
please help!

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:08 am

I just saw a post, I forget where, with REMY saying something along the lines of "If you need to learn PT, you can do it in about a week, thusly the only reason to learn it now is because there are a huge amount of books, tutorials, DVDS, etc. for PT." Paraphrased to be sure, but if it comes from REMY it must be useful, eh?

Nathan

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:52 am

basilbowman wrote:

I just saw a post, I forget where, with REMY saying something along the lines of "If you need to learn PT, you can do it in about a week, thusly the only reason to learn it now is because there are a huge amount of books, tutorials, DVDS, etc. for PT." Paraphrased to be sure, but if it comes from REMY it must be useful, eh?

Nathan

Whoa there Nathan - that came from me, and while it's still my opinion, I know a lot less about recording than Remy, so it should be taken with a grain of salt. Also, my comment was directed at someone starting a home studio who didn't (yet) need to meet the expectations of paying clients. Capellino's question seems to me more of a marketing question for a pro studio. He's looking at PT in order to satisfy clients. I certainly have no idea what clients expect in Greece, so I don't feel I can give him any advice. I guess my opinion can be summarized as "I want to use PT because the pros use it" is a bad reason; "I want to use PT because my clients want it" is a good reason - but to use that reason, you have to have clients, and they have to want PT.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:58 am

Ah, my bad, many apologies - Guess I shouldn't be so hasty to jump in on topics I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and start misquoting others, eh? Smile

Doh!

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:03 am

"Better to keep your mouth shut and be presumed a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt."

Oh nuts.

(If you didn't get it, don't worry, it didn't work too well. The idea was that I said that and now I'm a fool)

PS +1 to BobRogers.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:27 am

I think I'm just going to start paying more attention to my signature...

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:30 am

Ah, shouldn't we all...
Even just paying attention sometimes might help Smile

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:33 pm

If you are in L.A. or N.Y. you have to have PT HD3 at 192... And a grazillion dollars of everything else.

If you're not... 96Khz and MORE TRACKS will get you the respect in your market.

Once people hear "Pro-Tools HD" they just want to know how many tracks.

RO Admin Joined: Mar 20, 2000 Posts: 4328 Location: Canada

Been sequencing and sampling for near 30 years. When I was introduced to PT back in the 90's, it operated like the rest of the high end gear I was used to... Totally Logical.

I've been using PT for 10 years. IMHO, its popular for a reason.
I'm dated with PT 24 mix plus++ and when I can afford to upgrade, I will continue to be a PT junky.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:24 am

I use Pro Tools and have done since Mix 4.0
I was on Sound Tools and worked on the early ProTools
... skipped the PT16 years
while I was on Deck and had ADATs
( want to buy some ADATs anyone ? complete with BRC )

currently on an HD2 and still mostly work at 44.1/24
I have two 96IOs

was keen to try the 192 but budget and client demands just didn't warrant ithe expense
...
but was keen to try the soft clip thingy

as for advice
almost impossible without more info on your intentions and additional gear

the 192 does offer the slots and more AES
but
if you have a simple set-up and don't intend to go past 96k then keep things simple and save the money
OR
UP the number of I/Os
OR
get more DSP
??

need more info

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:33 am

capellino wrote:

i ve reached a point that i think i should work with pro tools
i ve never used the before...and i want some opinion..
i know for sure that i ll get the hd 2
but i dont know what interface or interfaces i should have that will go better for my setup
should i go with the 192 plus and 8 analoge input expansion card..
or for two 96 and a good converter?
sorry for my english guys if they are not so good..i am greek..hehe

capellino,

Your English is probably as good or better than mine, so don't apologize! (HA!)

You're already on the Mac platform, so ProTools will be a bit of a learning curve to get over. However, PT on the Apple platform was much easier to deal with than the Windows platform.

While I'm no PT expert by any means, what I have learned so far is that there are converters out there that will give you much more "bang for the buck". The first one that comes to mind is the Lynx Aurora-16 with HD interface card.

I'm an old analog console guy. I mix far quicker and better with knobs and faders in front of me, as opposed to just a mouse and keyboard. For me, the D-Command was the only choice if I was going to get into Pro Tools. This isn't true for everyone, so take that as just food for thought.

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