tc helicon voice works

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:34 pm

i just purchased the tc helicon voice works (blue rack mount) and im having some trouble connecting it to my preamp (presonus eureka rack mount). i was wondering if i could connect my mic to the preamp and the preamp to the tc helicon.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:16 pm

no takers?

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:37 pm

ok, so i stopped by guitar center today to ask them how to set up my tc helicon and this is what they've told me; use a 1/4 cable wire and connect that from the line input of the tc helicon into the line input of the preamp. connect a dual 1/4 cable wire into the balanced outputs (LEFT/Right) of the tc helicon and into the presonus firebox audio interface 3 / 4.

guess what? it still does not work.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:02 am

Why would you connect two line INPUTS together?

You need a line out to go into a line in.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:04 am

yes you are correct. so i plugged the other end into the output. and it does not work.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:12 am

Im wondering why you need a separate pre-amp with that unit?

TC Helicon VoiceWorks Vocal Processor Features:

* HybridShift harmony generation for smooth, natural sound
* 4 independent harmony voices, 4 distinct harmony modes: scale, chord, shift, and MIDI notes
* 2 lead-voice thickening voices one above, one below
* Humanization of harmony voices using FlexTime, vibrato, inflection, pitch randomization, and portamento
* T.C. Electronic compressor/gate
* T.C. Electronic reverb/tap-tempo delay
* Song mode for live performance allows you to save internal sequences of up to 50 songs with 30 user presets per song
* MIDI CC control over all parameters
* Selectable equal-tempered and just tuning for harmonies
* HarmonyHold
* Scale-based pitch correction for studio and live performance
* Fully adjustable gender and voicing per voice
* High-quality mic preamp with 48V phantom power
* TC Electronic 3-band EQ plus low cut

You should be able to go straight into your interface. I'm under the impression that daisy chaining pre-amps is not recommended.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:36 am

What did the manual read to do in this situation?
http://www.tc-helicon.com/Default.asp?Id=2246

After I read it, I'm currently wondering if my pre is still working as I may have sent a +48v shot into one of these items?

I guess backwards compatible doesn't apply here.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:55 pm

Downwards compatible? Rolling Eyes

j/k.

Hmm, 48v into a preamp. How the hell did you get a phantom powered input into an input?

Edit: smiley didn't work.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:22 pm

Could you take a male/male XLR from one pre-amp to another?

I only own two pre's so I'm not going to try.

No takers?

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:02 pm

good chance that the phantom supplys will be fine
resistively coupled which should handle even a short circuit
and
with consistent wiring +v will connect with +volts and so NO potential difference and NO current flow
BUT
The phantom stuff later.

this question/thread is also over in the Recording Studio forum
http://www.recording.org/ftopict-47409.html

he owns 3 units and there is many, many valid ways to make use of them

but the language and syntax of the descriptions are all over the place

inputs to inputs
outputs to outputs
inputs ... to outputs

please
an output to an input

he has the Voice Works because it was bought after the Eureka
and seems to want to use it as an effect unit

this WILL require the ability to set up a send, return configuration in the software mixer
... I don't know which software he is using

the FireBox interface is a 2 input and 6 output firewire device

http://www.tc-helicon.com/VoiceWorks (tc helicon voice works)

http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=15 (presonus eureka)

http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=4 (presonus firebox with firewire)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:43 pm

Codemonkey wrote:

Downwards compatible? :roll: j/k.

Given ya some rope boss.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:36 am

chicity wrote:

i just purchased the tc helicon voice works (blue rack mount) and im having some trouble connecting it to my preamp (presonus eureka rack mount). i was wondering if i could connect my mic to the preamp and the preamp to the tc helicon.

It would work either way, but the best way (I think) would be to connect it to the Eureka first. That way the sound that gets processed in your voiceworks is already compressed and amped.

Katelyn Benton
kbenton@presonus.com

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:56 am

kbenton wrote:

chicity wrote:

i just purchased the tc helicon voice works (blue rack mount) and im having some trouble connecting it to my preamp (presonus eureka rack mount). i was wondering if i could connect my mic to the preamp and the preamp to the tc helicon.

It would work either way, but the best way (I think) would be to connect it to the Eureka first. That way the sound that gets processed in your voiceworks is already compressed and amped.

Katelyn Benton
kbenton@presonus.com

I'm assuming that the Voiceworks has a line input which it does not appear to. With all due respect, would it not be better to just plug the Voiceworks directly into the Firebox Line input and eliminate the secondary preamp altogether? To me it sounds like you're planning to overdrive the one of the preamps of which there are potentially three if you include the one in the Firebox.

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