Mackie 1200f Daisy-Chain

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:23 am

Are you referring to chaining 42 firefaces worth of built-in pres or chaining firefaces where you have external pres connected via lightpipe?
JJ

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:31 am

Fireface 1 -
Channels 1-8: Millennia HV3D-8
Channels 9-10 - Built-in Pres
Channels 11-18 - Mackie Onyx 800R - via lightpipe
Channels 19-26 - Focusrite ISA 428 (4) and Aphex 107 (4) via lightpipe

Fireface 2 -
Channels 1-8 - Grace 801
Channels 9-10 - Built-in pres
Channels 11-16 Focusrite platinum (don't recall the model - but it had 8 mic inputs and lightpipe - it was borrowed.)

It was for an outdoor festival with 4 stages. Ran it for about 4 hours off and on with no problems.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:39 am

Interesting...
Now, that is something that I was trying to steer away from, but maybe it would work well...
There are just full lightpipe devices (m-audio profire lightbridge comes to mind) that could just connect pres via lightpipe.
Might this be a more logical/stable way of doing it?
That's how the dm2000 is set up.
JJ

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:48 am

Well...let's get into how you're routing your signal.

Are you splitting the FOH to go 1 leg to live sound and 1 leg to recording? Which console are you using? Do you have the digital and analog outs available to you? Do you have splitters?

If it were me and I were trying to record that many tracks at 1 time and be isolated from FOH, I'd get a few tranformer isolators, set up a mixer and run straight into a couple Alesis HD 24s then dump them into a DAW and do post later.

You're not trying to mix 24 vocalists in harmony all at one time to 2-track, right? That's why you want so many input channels??

One of the things I like about the Fireface is that you can set up amazing monitor mixes and as long as you're careful with setting the gain, your FOH guy can get a stable collection of stems or (with the right amount of DA converters or digital inputs on the board) a complete multi-track split of all of your work.

That's how I did the jazz show - I did the FOH with the outputs from the RMEs. I bussed drums together and sent them as a stem and so on. It wasn't 100% ideal, but with more DACs, I could have had my cake and eaten it too.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:25 am

He asked for 64 I/O cant happen on ANY firewire
2 RME FF 800 will work thats only 48 i/o not 64

Scott
ADK

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:27 am

Double J,
with the MCl7 you can record 48 I/O
it will take 3 MY 16 AT cards.
you can then use 2 RME 9652 to conneect to the console.

Scott
ADK

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:35 am

ADK audio wrote:

He asked for 64 I/O cant happen on ANY firewire
2 RME FF 800 will work thats only 48 i/o not 64

Scott
ADK

Well...56 at least.

If the firewire 800 works, you can get 3 units daisy chained.

I'm not sure if he needs 64 channels or just enough to get the group recorded (don't recall the exact number, but it wasn't 64).

In any case, digital out of the console would be the ideal.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:32 am

Cucco said:
"Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD."

I've seen a motivational poster, of a forklift, lifting another forklift which is carrying a stack of boxes up to a high platform. Reminds me of that.

doubleJ said:
"The keyboard sounds beautiful in stereo."

Right, I'm running a line from the R channel on our organ now. At least just to test it. Hell, it might free up a mixer channel.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:49 am

Codemonkey wrote:

Cucco said:
"Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD."

I've seen a motivational poster, of a forklift, lifting another forklift which is carrying a stack of boxes up to a high platform. Reminds me of that.

See below...
:-O

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:52 am

lol
No hotlink either.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:03 am

Well that's a user-friendly site, ain't it.

However, I have seen that "[X] Image" thing many times.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:05 am

Well then...
If the owner of the site doesn't want to share and play nice, here it is on my site:

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:07 am

now thats funny something i would try....

FYI 3 fireface will NOT work together.

Scott
ADK

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:09 am

Are you sure?
Some of the folks on the RME Forum have reported to get it working without too many glitches...

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:41 am

you can use 2 FF 800 with the 3rd as an ad/da but not 3 chained together and actually load up all channels for record playback edit etc...
i consider 2 rather shaky once below 512buffer

for tracking they might work low buufer punch in, 3 no way

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