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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The new behringer Bass cabs, well the 4x10 with aluminum cones, sounds quite good, they do make some good stuff, but some stuff is cheap, not horrible, just cheap, while a few Items, like the Bass Cabs, can be used and considered professional
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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crispytheone88 wrote:
I don't think anyone wants you to stop commenting, every opinion counts, just refrase it and understand that most people asking about Behringer, are obviously not experienced for example, instaed of

Behringer Suck

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All Behringer is crap



In my defense, I don't believe I ever just said Behringer suck without stating why, or said all Behringer is crap. However, that is neither here nor there.... point taken.


I have just become a member of this newsgroup and am avidly reading the wisdoms (and otherwise) of contributors. I started in the budget gear section and was intrigued to read the above; and then to read a thread from two days earlier, in the same budget section, [subject "Behringer B2030A Truth (sorry if its been asked before)" ], and saw the following quote from the same contributor: "Crap! Same as all other Behringer gear... crap! Razz "

At least it had a smiley following it, and you did say you that it was your belief that you had not said it.

Anyway, I am not trying to finger anyone, just to point out that many of us newbies will come online and assume that this group has a lot of expertise and will trust what is said even when it might actually be tongue in cheek. So go easy on us, keep it balanced and objective please.

I will be making my own contributions later, see you then.

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"Behringer/Alesis/etc. are marketing to musicians who don't know about recording, and who will probably never learn to be great engineers anyway. That's why the market is so big for cheap gear"


Yep! You hit the nail on the head ... and why do these companies aim at this market? Because they know they can pawn off sub standard stuff on this segment of the buying public.

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To use the car example: you don't learn to drive in a $250,000 car. It doesn't make sense. I got this gear to use it, to break it, to figure out how not to break it, and to put in some time at the School of Hard Knocks before I invest in something that will cost an arm and a leg to repair. "


The analogy of using a cheap car to "learn to drive", doesn't convince me at all. If Behringer made cars, chances are the NTSB wouldn't allow them on the highways due to safety factors. I advocate is that recordists practice "safe recording" as well ... and at least with Neve or similar type gear, it can be repaired although that kind of gear is pretty robust. An example .. I had an RNP here that took a very short fall off the top of the rack, 3 feet to the carpeted floor. One of the volume pot shafts snapped right off. On the other hand, a few years ago, one of my AMEK NEVE 9098 EQ's took a similar fall directly to its face / knobs, onto a hardwood parquet floor over a concrete slab and sustained absolutely no damage. I suspect a similar fall would have destroyed a Behringer product. I was told to send the RNP back for replacement rather than repair. The things are made so cheap, it's more cost effective to replace the whole unit instead of fixing it.

It's a FACT that there are many who have reported a pleasant experience with Behringer gear. My experience is just as many complain that Behringer gear has broken, failed and in some cases spontaneously combusted in the rack while not even in use. More so than with any other brand. So what's with that? Add to that, most will readily admit almost anything sounds better. The internet is rife with these kinds of comments.

Anyone who wishes to make a testimonial about how well their Behringer gear has served them, just consider yourselves among the fortunate and take comfort in that. Remember, for each of you, there is someone else out there, that can relate a horror story about that same piece of gear. The same cannot be said about quality stuff. It's your choice and don't let us stop you from needlessly wasting your money on that stuff.

But please don't go around the internet, recommending it and then registering surprise, indigence or disdain when everyone does not agree with you.

And with that, I think it's time to close this thread. This poor horse has been whipped enough. Thanks to all who have contributed.. Kurt
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