Recording guitar through Line 6 POD

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:28 am

Kurt Foster wrote:

If your client like the POD ... use it. It's their dime. On the other hand, I hate PODs and all other "Slime Sux" products.

A small collection of thoughts regarding Line 6 products;

I bought a Line 6 amp new... hardly ever used it ... it failed. I had it fixed and sold it to a friend ... it failed again ... same thing again the tech told us.

I had a friend, who bought a Line 6 .... it crashed all the time, loseing his programs. What a POS. In fact, perhaps they made a mistake when they call those things the "POD" ... maybe they meant POS.

The best sound I ever heard from any Line 6 product was the sound of it hitting the dumpster.

The power supply on my POD has gone out 3 times!

The Pod has it uses though, it's great for scratch tracks.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:46 am

Here is just my reviews on a lot of these amp sim's like the POD. I have used:

Line 6 Pod
Line 6 Pod 2.0
Line 6 Bass Pod
Line 6 Pod Pro
Line 6 Pod XT
Line 6 Amp Farm
Behringer V-amp
Boss GT-6
Boss Gt-6B
Digitech RP300
Johnson J-Station

Out of all these devices the ONLY one that could give me the sound of my miked up Peavey JSX tube amp and 4x12 cab was the Johnson J-Station. Which is really funny cause I picked it up for like 80 bucks off ebay on a whim. I recommend it to anyone. It does a great job of giving you the "feel" of playing through a real amp. It has dynamic-controlled tone. Just like my tube amp. If you pick harder while playing the tone changes accordingly. I am not saying this is all I would record with. You just cannot beat a miked up amp and cab but it definitely is a good tool. Great for re-amping, great for late-night sessions where noise is an issue. I think out of all these devices I have used over time the J-Station is the only one I could and would consider using for my entire guitar sound on a track if I had to. It's the only one that sounds and feels like the real thing to me. Just my thoughts.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:27 pm

TheArchitect wrote:

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"Pod negates the need for direct box?" or not?

thank you

Does POD negate need for DI box? No.

I can't understand whetever else you are trying ask about. Could you rephrase or something?[/quote]

this is plenty... I appreciate that the main idea was understood... 'that nothing else was, is of negligible consequence.
thank you very much

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:45 pm

DJFade:
You asked what "re-amping" is. It's where you track a musical instrument (say, a guitar) and you play that track back into an amp.
Many folks out there like the control and options this affords. You can, concievably, take a clean, dry guitar track and then blast it through an amp. This usually requires that you use a DI to take that line level out of the console (or soundcard) and attenuate it so that it is more like a guitar pick-up signal. Then you mic that amp. The new Millenia Media TD-1 is the king for that.
I personally feel that a player should generate the tone that he/she wants to achieve WHILE PLAYING! I can't think of 1 guitar player I've recorded who would be willing to play "clean"and then let me nasty it up a bit. There's just too much interaction between the artist and their amp. Having said that, I LOVE to re-amp other stuff like organs, synths, and even the occasional snare or vox track. I even use an old Leslie speaker I drive with a Sunn amp to do that. Anything goes, baby!

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:53 pm

I have the pod xt pro, and i use it a lot. I do a live reamp of guitars....sounds killer. I plug the guitar into the the front of the pod in the regular input, then on the dry guitar out (on the back of the pod ) I run a signal back to the amp in the tracking room, and mic the cabinet, running both seprate signals into my daw. It takes a little time but you can really tune the sound (I usually try to find something on the pod that compliments the "real" guitar sound). Track them seprately and you can mix accordingly later. One thing that is a need to know is you WILL run into a ground loop buzz, when you do, flick the ground lift switch on the amp only (not the pod), or if your amp doesent have a ground lift switch, find a way to break the connection of the 3rd prong of the amp plug. So far everytime this technique yields excellent phat guitar results.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:57 am

I think the simplest and most effective solution was already posed here -

Track it both ways - dry and with the POD. Even if he/she only really likes the POD version (pour, mis-guided soul), you still have the dry copy that you can reamp later a thousand different ways.

J.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:15 am

BTW -

One of the coolest set of devices for DI and Re-Amping is by Radial.

They offer a new pack which includes their J48 (Jensen Xfrmr, Active DI) with the X-Amp re-amper. This takes the signal from line level to instrument level and it's adjustable. BTW - the sound - in a word - friggin excellent!

J.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:40 pm

Radial also makes a product called a ProDI. I picked one up for like 70 bucks when i was looking for a cheap passive DI. I later realized I could use this for reamping too since it was a passive DI.

Also to backtrack a bit, KF commented that he dislikes all "lime sux" products, and I just have to disagree with that.

I've never really been a fan of the Line6 amps or pods, but their pedals are priceless. I don't even think my band or half the bands I like would sound the way they do without the line6 delay modeler pedal (the green one). it is hands down the best delay pedal that exists. ask any good guitarist and i guarentee they will swear by it like they swear by their vox amp or their gibson guitar.

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:53 am

what about sans amp?

i have behringer's knockoff (yes yes i know, death to them and all that stuff) and im pretty impressed. might not be that dynamic of a signal, but with death metal type stuff, who cares.

tone wise it isnt terrible, and definitely brings out my p90s more than a POD would.

when i tested a POD, it sounded too, best i can say is solid statish.

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