awsome kick drum sound?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:40 pm

im running logic pro 7, and i will be using a sennhiser e901 kick drum mic and i was wondering if any one could tell me how to get that killer tone that all the big metal bands have (like that on the new roadrunner records cd)??
and advise for recording drum kits would be great actully??
regards

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:49 pm

check it out yall http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/ hope that helps

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:20 pm

D112 half in the hole and a 57 on the beater side on the edge bout a inch away from the head.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:06 pm

sickyboy:

I'd like to try this, what do you use to hold the two mics?... Where do you put the 57 on the beater side.Thanks for the help!

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:37 am

JohnB99 wrote:

sickyboy:

I'd like to try this, what do you use to hold the two mics?... Where do you put the 57 on the beater side.Thanks for the help!

Are you kidding??? I think it's most appropriate to use mic stands to hold microphones, but that's just my opinion...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:53 pm

Dan_Pence wrote:

JohnB99 wrote:

sickyboy:

I'd like to try this, what do you use to hold the two mics?... Where do you put the 57 on the beater side.Thanks for the help!

Are you kidding??? I think it's most appropriate to use mic stands to hold microphones, but that's just my opinion...

lol :p

Ok but what to do when a drummer doesn't have a hole in the front of the kickdrum? I don't think our drummer would approve if we created one manually. Tried to put a mic before it without a hole, but it sounds muddy, and loses all the kick, wich is basically what you're trying to capture.

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:13 am

I play with a drummer who had a kick drum (head) without any hole in it. I used a metal can, you can use a glass, or anything that is round and appox. the right size hole your looking for. I think I used a peanut can jar, it was about 4" or so around. Any how...
Trace around the jar (or round object) with a black marker, then use a razor blade to cut the hole with.
It took me about 5 to 10 minutes
My drummer was Very Happy

after I finished.

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:23 am

sander_8 wrote:

Ok but what to do when a drummer doesn't have a hole in the front of the kickdrum?

Easy-- You take the entire head off. I do this a lot for the heck of it anyway. Keeps air from blowing into the mic as much.

Off with his head!!!

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:27 am

hehe thnx

I'll try reggies solution first I think Wink

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:30 am

Pre Amp wrote:

I play with a drummer who had a kick drum (head) without any hole in it. I used a metal can, you can use a glass, or anything that is round and appox. the right size hole your looking for. I think I used a peanut can jar, it was about 4" or so around. Any how...
Trace around the jar (or round object) with a black marker, then use a razor blade to cut the hole with.
It took me about 5 to 10 minutes
My drummer was Very Happy

after I finished.

Easier to just heat up the can on a burner and press it on the head and turn. Smile

Melts like buttah', be carefull and wear mitts though.

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:43 am

Vince Jaeger wrote:

Easier to just heat up the can on a burner and press it on the head and turn. Smile

Melts like buttah', be carefull and wear mitts though.

This works really well, I second the technique.

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:03 pm

Spence:

Thanks for the slap - To rephrase my question :is there a floor stand or something that you can use to put the mic close to the floor instead of taping it onto a box like we have done?... Do you use the desktop stand, the little tripod stand or what?

Sorry for looking dull here, but I'm trying to keep the cr**p (like boom stands) out of the way of the drummer...to keep him happy, but get a good recording - Any help appreciated...

Still open - where do you recommend on the beater side - how high, position from the beater, etc to get a good sound?

John

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:44 pm

Four words - Earth Works Kick Pad - I swear by it.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:22 am

GCPA - beater side or centered on the hole?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:19 am

i have a cool square on my kick drum i cut out

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