headphones

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:55 pm

Hi, I want to buy some good headphones, but i cant find any good review or chart for headphones,... for me, I'm in between the Roland Rh200, Sennheiser HD25, or the Beyer Dymanic DT-770, but I'd like to hear what U think,... just post a list of headphones you prefer and which ones would you buy, some prices,...

and we are talking about wide frequency range, flat headphones.

Thanks!

(my first post, lets see how good is this forum Smile

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:18 pm

Only problem is, somebody here would have had to have used all those phones(Or others), almost one after the other, under similar conditions, to A,B,C them... Not likely(Speak-up if somebody has!). Phones, like everything else, are most often purchased for any number of unknown reasons(Careful A/B'ing being among the last reasons.) then just "gotten used-to". Once you're used to a pair of phones, all other phones sound "bad"(Though they may not be bad.) - sort've the way it is(The way it is with most things).

Me, I use lot's of phones 'cause I'm too cheap and lazy to take mine along to the different studios.

That said, many like Sennheiser's(Which appear in most studio's I go to.), I never have. I didn't know Roland sold phones? My all-time fav's were the Koss Pro600AA's - 30 years ago. At the moment I prefer(Of those you listed), the Beyer's(Which I own.). Careful, there are two different impedences available, get the one's you need(Likely the 80 ohm jobbers, which work great through my Mackie mixer anyway.).

Fletcher, at Mercenary Audio, sells some "new" phones, I forget the name - says they're good. He would - he sells them(But, confidentially, I think most of the stuff Fletcher sells is pretty good.). Call them for the one's best for you.

Whatever you buy, spend real money. No matter what you spend, they still cost a whole lot less then any kind of good speakers.

TG

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:25 pm

There was a headphone thread recently in the Acoustic Music section of this site:

http://www.recording.org/ftopict-29135.html

<edit/addendum> I agree with the above post about "spending real money" to hear what the better 'phones can do, but also consider what you're plugging them into. With a lot of gear out there, the headphone jack is just an afterthought in the design, with a crappy amplifier. It's one place the manufacturers can cut costs. A dedicated, high quality headphone amp (or a power amp, if you know how to wire it) is the way to go, if you really want to get the most out of your 'phones, no matter what model you choose.

Mike Barrs

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:32 am

Listen to foldepath.. a high quality headophone amp is as essential to good headphone listening as is a high quality preamp to Microphone usage.

Headroom (see link below) could help you along considerably. My brother is a junkie for that place...he's spent thousands on different headphone sets over the years...

The best set I've heard were the Sennheiser HD 650's. There' were some Grado's as well, but I forget the model..

The HD 650's are superb, I have Dynaudio BM15a monitors and the HD 650's are the closest thing I've heard in 'headphone form' (i.e flat response, imaging, depth etc). The Dynes aren't the flattest or best monitors in the audio world, but they provide an excellent response for accurate mix translation to everywhere else the mixes are played on, and I've found when I'm forced to mix on can's and I borrow the HD650's, my mixes head down the same path as the Dynes allow...

I wouldn't mix solely on the HD's, but I feel quite confident getting a mix 70-80% of the way there, to be finished on the mon's later.

So, my recommendation: HD650's, coupled with a high quality headphone amp that provides an accurate response, rather than a coloured one (i.e audiophile style). Check :

http://www.headphone.com/

They are quite unbiased, and if you write to them will recommend even a product they don't necessarily stock if it's right for you. They have a lot of stuff and advice I feel would be suitable for you tho... just email and ask what you are after (flat, even response, great imaging etc, etc) and they shall help.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:16 am

get the beyerdynamic dt770/pro, they are amazing. 5-35,000hz frequency response, incredibly comfortable, well isolated, and cool looking, which is most important. now, run to gc!

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:45 am

Have you compared the DT's to the HD 650's? No comparison IMO...

I'm not trying to one upmanship it... I really have worked quite a bit with both...

They are both very comfortable to work with,,,very.

I suppose the HD's are more expensive too, so that's definately a factor...

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:32 am

Just for fun, what are the prices?

When I got my 770's last year, they were 200, at GC. I've seen them this year for 150, at least on the web. What do the Senn's go for?

BTW: When I criticize Senn's, I mean the type one finds in "the booth" at the normal studio - not the greatest to begin with and generally beat to H-E-**, by the time I get to use them! Certainly, for a good buck, for your OWN personal set, they - and many others - make some great phones...

AND, speaking of "what one hears" with phones. Yes, a good set will definitely point-out the "bad" stuff in your system - including their own amplifier. Get a good set and a good amp and be prepared to hear everything at its' worst!(A very good thing.)

TG

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:29 am

tringlesceo wrote:

get the beyerdynamic dt770/pro, they are amazing. 5-35,000hz frequency response, incredibly comfortable, well isolated, and cool looking, which is most important. now, run to gc!

yeah.... but how do they sound? Laughing

my vote is for sennheiser 265 linear...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:40 am

I've heard the dt770s.. the low end is quite tight but its not really prominent...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:26 pm

FaNo wrote:

Hi, I want to buy some good headphones

Check out the SONY MDR series. I have a pair and LOVE 'em!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:15 pm

best is to audition them yourself, however my quote is sennheiser hd280, i also like the akg 240 /271s a pair of hd25s will get you defenitely def...

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:30 pm

I have a pair of 'phones by Joe Grado (courtesy of my ex-wife, the anesthesiologist!). Very comfy and sweet-sounding...$$$. You didn't mention a budget. My $100 phones in the studio are largely some Sennheiser 280's, plus Sony 7506. IMHO, the 280s are way smoother and more comfortable. the Sony's are "hyped"-sounding at both exteremes, but they're built tougher, so I give 'em to the drummer!

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:15 am

teddy g wrote:

Quote:

When I got my 770's last year, they were 200, at GC. I've seen them this year for 150, at least on the web. What do the Senn's go for?

a hundred bucks.

moonbaby wrote:

Quote:

IMHO, the 280s are way smoother and more comfortable. the Sony's are "hyped"-sounding at both exteremes, but they're built tougher, so I give 'em to the drummer!

i have the same opinion, and as mentioned if you have to deal with a real def drummer, that's mainly the case right? Very Happy

, just kidding! then HD25s plus they sitting like a bomb on your head... the sound is loud, loud and loud...

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:09 am

i had a pair of senn's a while back i forget the model but they went for about $100 at GC...they were mainly vocal headfones i guess cause they were way to flat and bassless...i have a pair of sony 7506's and although the newer ones are a lil more exagerated on the low end i still love 'em...they are perfect IMO for rap/r&b settings

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