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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This from Broadcast Engineering

(Big Tree... thanx for the new industry links btw!!!!)

It's really disgusting to think that some foreign company's first foray into the free marketplace is straight into fraudulent practices and/or corruption.

At least B****ger had the decency to brand the products with their own name.

The sad thing is that it cheapens the value of the legit manufacturer's products from risk of purchasing a fake item.

I would think they could have made a pile of money making their own branded product sold at a discount... as many of the cheap import mic's are.

So much for greed and corruption being a western problem.

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I can't discuss this right now, I've got a certain Ministry song crankin' over and over in my head.

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I'm new here and I hate that this is the first way to say hello but here it goes.

I personally feel as if the greed (at least as of now) by the west. The west sort of pressured china to industrialize. As the west pressures china for cheaper labor, "the race to the bottom" creates a whole slew of new problems. How do we know that these knockoffs aren't being created by western investors who are just getting them produced in china. You think a Chinese entrepreneur designs everything that's no name in Wal-Mart? Nope.

Behringer blows, I know there are a million stories but here's mine.

Bought a big mixing console when I was younger in order to do some home recording. After 20 minutes the board cut out and smoke started coming out of the rackable power supply's fan. I replaced the power unit and then all the LEDs and lights went out on the board.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Be****nger is in the same boat.

I've seen plenty products from them that have bent knobs, missing faders, broken jacks, you name it - straight out of the box.

They also get the Ministry song playin' in my brain...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

bent wrote:
Be****nger is in the same boat.

I've seen plenty products from them that have bent knobs, missing faders, broken jacks, you name it - straight out of the box.

They also get the Ministry song playin' in my brain...


Pre-1997 Be***nger was actually pretty good gear...







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First time I ever saw a Be...... amp was during a show from an Alberta ...err... no Toronto band called The Pursuit of Happiness. Great band that had limited success. First and last time I ever saw one on stage. I don't think all Be..... products are necessarily bad for all people. For the home user it's a good lesson to learn if nothing else. I think mostly it's their business practices which are a blight to the industry. But then, I could point fingers at Nike, Sony, Panasonic, Apple....really it's becoming epidemic. Free trade is good for the boys at the top but the grunts pay with their lives.

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'Aint that the truth!

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A fellow engineer, much older and wiser than myself, once told me "You're not rich enough, to buy cheap gear"
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Yet another truism!

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