M-Audio Defective products

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:59 pm

Is this true that M-Audio products don't have long? Someone said that they got 10 keyboards and only 1 worked perfectly fine and others were defected. I need to know this since if My BX5a monitors arent that good then probley I should get the Edirol MA-15D since they told me that Edirol and Roland are much better brand and they had no problems.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:41 pm

Maybee you get wrong information... I have some M-Audio products (FW1814, Octane Preamp, Oxygen 61 midi controller) for some time now and got no problem. I personnaly think that M-Audio are not considered "cheap" but affordable stuff. In this case it's always possible to have trouble with materiel but not specially M-Audio. And I always have great support for question by the support crew.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:25 pm

How long have you had these M-Audio products? Since if it's less than a year then you don't know if they will last more than year. M-Audio only covers for 1 year so I thought that means that they don't trust there products so they only give one year.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:58 am

We had a Delta 1010 interface for almost 6 years before it stopped working. We took it to the authorized servicing place, and got a new one, no questions asked.

Was a bit surprised to be honest...

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:05 am

First off, I don't see where Kingsix said anything about the length of time he's had the M-Audio gear, am I missing something here? The Roland products I've owned over the years all had the same warranty: 1 year on parts, and a mere 90 days on the labor. Does that mean that they only last 90 days? Read the fine print; I believe that their Edirol gear carries a similar warranty. Besides, most gear (75+%) carries a 1-year warranty or even less.
Who is telling you the crap about M-Audio vs. Edirol anyway? The dealer trying to sell you Edirol? Yeah, he's your buddy...

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:55 am

In audio as in most things you get what you pay for.

If you pay $6000 for a tape deck (Nagra) you should expect that it will be around for a while. If you pay $120.00 for a dual microphone preamp you cannot expect it to be built for a lifetime of service. There are exceptions but they are few and far between. Pro audio stuff is built for continuous service (or should be) since people are making their living off the equipment. Prosumer or consumer equipment is built for the hobbyist and is really not designed for the sometimes rough and tumble world of pro audio.

Buy what you can afford but be aware that just because you paid what you consider to be a lot does not mean that it will last forever.

Companies like Benchmark, Lavry, Weiss and Bryston are built to last and Bryston even has a 20 year warranty to back up their feeling that it is built for the long haul. Sometimes having fewer pieces of equipment that are built well is better than having a rack load of equipment that is going to self distruct in a couple of years. MTCW

Best of luck....!

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:10 am

moonbaby wrote:

First off, I don't see where Kingsix said anything about the length of time he's had the M-Audio gear, am I missing something here? The Roland products I've owned over the years all had the same warranty: 1 year on parts, and a mere 90 days on the labor. Does that mean that they only last 90 days? Read the fine print; I believe that their Edirol gear carries a similar warranty. Besides, most gear (75+%) carries a 1-year warranty or even less.
Who is telling you the crap about M-Audio vs. Edirol anyway? The dealer trying to sell you Edirol? Yeah, he's your buddy...

Sorry for my lack of detail.... I have my 1814 and octane for about 2 years and little less for the midi controller....

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:27 am

KingSix wrote:

moonbaby wrote:

First off, I don't see where Kingsix said anything about the length of time he's had the M-Audio gear, am I missing something here? The Roland products I've owned over the years all had the same warranty: 1 year on parts, and a mere 90 days on the labor. Does that mean that they only last 90 days? Read the fine print; I believe that their Edirol gear carries a similar warranty. Besides, most gear (75+%) carries a 1-year warranty or even less.
Who is telling you the crap about M-Audio vs. Edirol anyway? The dealer trying to sell you Edirol? Yeah, he's your buddy...

Sorry for my lack of detail.... I have my 1814 and octane for about 2 years and little less for the midi controller....

No need to apologize. This was my point-that you DIDN'T state that the gear was less than a year old, as icswoosh claimed.
And, Tom is very right about "prosumer" gear (like M-Audio). Much of it is designed with no regard to longevity or serviceability. I still have several pieces from the 70s (!) that are still running strong (Marantz, Technics, Ashly,and dbx, among others). You gets what you pays for.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:20 am

lcswoosh05 wrote:

Is this true that M-Audio products don't have long?

Have long until what? Until they're married? Until their next bus?

Or do you mean that they "don't have long" as in some kind of physiological slur? (That's what Enzyte is for.)

lcswoosh05 wrote:

Someone said that they got 10 keyboards and only 1 worked perfectly fine

In general, I have found that "Someone" is retarded. As is his close friend "Somebody." The only person more retarded is "They."

Case in point, why would somebody by 10 keyboards unless they were starting some kind of music teaching facility? If they bought one after another after another and kept returning them due to their *defective* nature, then it truly proves my point about the retardation issue.

lcswoosh05 wrote:

and others were defected.

Holy Crap! Do you mean that they snuck out from their own country under the tyranny of a communist-like regime and have sought refuge here in the US? That's COOL. It's like Blackmarket only better!!!

lcswoosh05 wrote:

I need to know this since if My BX5a monitors arent that good

They're not. They're okay, but I'd shudder to use the term "good" with them...

lcswoosh05 wrote:

then probley

Having a hard time understanding this one...
*Probley.*
Do you mean an adverb as in "like a probe" or "probe-like"
or *Probably* as in "likely to occur"

lcswoosh05 wrote:

I should get the Edirol MA-15D

Why? That's like trading in a Pinto on a Gremlin.

lcswoosh05 wrote:

since they told me that Edirol and Roland are much better brand and they had no problems.

Ahhh...there's *somebody's* and *someone's* more retarded cousin "They" again.

Don't listen to They, Somebody, or Someone.

lcswoosh05 wrote:

M-Audio only covers for 1 year so I thought that means that they don't trust there products so they only give one year.

Hmmm....check out the warranty on almost every single product in the world. 1 Year Parts, 1 Year labor. Those that deviate from this usually offer 1 year parts, 90 days labor.

If you want a product with a better warranty, check out some of Dave Hill's Products. They have a great warranty. They're smidgen pricier than their M-Audio bretheren, but just a little better.

</sarcasm> Razz

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:21 am

I don't waste time with conspiracy theories. M-Audio is what it is; and indeed, you do get what you pay for, no different than any other product out there competing for my dollars. So far, I'm a fan of their stuff; it works reliably and does exactly what they say it does.

I have had an FW410 for three or four YEARS now, and it works perfectly for all my PC work as a multichannel ouput and occasional cheap extra mic pre or line in.

Even more amazingly, their online support was fantastic when I tried to get it working for my iMAC for a live sound/surround audio gig. (SOOOO Many choices, for so many versions of the MAC OS. Bravo!)

I couldn't believe all the drivers they had on their website - more than I've ever seen for any website offering tech support; they obviously want this product to work with whatever computer you bought, and it's much more support than other companies who have sometimes all but given up with new support. After finally getting the right driver to match the OS in my iMAC, the driver not only loaded itself perfectly, but initiated a flawless FIRMWARE update, too. (Before I realized what it was doing, or could even stop it, it was halfway done - scared the crap outta me, but worked flawlessly when it was done. WOW!!! When was the last time you've seen THAT kind of gizmo/update work so well, eh?)

Finding the right software and firmware update at 2 a.m. before an important show, for a four year old product (that I was almost ready to replace) makes one VERY happy and loyal, if you ask me. How much longer do I expect it to work? Doesn't really matter to me; for what I paid for it so long ago now, it's already paid for itself many times over.

I believe that Avid owns them now, or....? Sharing ownership with ProTools isn't so bad, I would guess.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:25 am

Jeremy, you should do stand-up comedy for geeks. LMAO!!!!!!! Thumbs Up

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:54 am

Well I did notice that the Roland DS-30A cost more than the BX5a but is the Roland DS-30A better monitor overall? I can trade with mine and get the Roland DS-30A monitors if I wanted to.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:04 am

No.

you should sell it all and just stop.

If you don't know how to judge the quality of monitors other than by price, you need to quit.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:04 am

Cucco wrote:

lcswoosh05 wrote:

Is this true that M-Audio products don't have long?

Have long until what? Until they're married? Until their next bus?

Or do you mean that they "don't have long" as in some kind of physiological slur? (That's what Enzyte is for.)

I misstype alot sorry but I meant to ask was "Is this true that M-Audio products don't last long?"

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:06 am

Well are the DS-30A monitors good? Since I heard Roland is a good product and that they are durable and last long? I' am really thinking to trade with my BX5a with these.

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