FINALLY!! The saga begins

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:21 pm

WOO HOO!

The Isolation Booth is up!!! Well.... not completely, but all the walls are standing!

I've still got to get the fire blocking in before I put the rest of the studs in and put the top plate on...

Here's some shots of the concrete pour yesterday... couldn't stand to be outside long... so it's the abbreviated version...

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:15 am

MadMax wrote:

BTW... how's your build coming along??? You should be about finished by now! How about some new pic's and an update on your place?!?!?

Oh, yes, I'm done with the room, except a few minor details, it is full functional. I will shoot final pics, collect previous, and update my thread this week. It's not excuse, but I'm busy and focused with recording. A friend of mine is joking ... man, you need to record faster, the whole community is nervous because the crowd of clients camping in front of the house and down the road, waiting to get inside.

The booth frame looks fantastic Thumbs Up

Keep going.

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:32 pm

Groff wrote:

Oh, yes, I'm done with the room, except a few minor details, it is full functional. I will shoot final pics, collect previous, and update my thread this week. It's not excuse, but I'm busy and focused with recording. A friend of mine is joking ... man, you need to record faster, the whole community is nervous because the crowd of clients camping in front of the house and down the road, waiting to get inside.

HA! That's GREAT!

Looking forward to seeing the pix and reading the update!

I know you've got to be happy that you're able to start recording and mixing!!! Thumbs Up

Quote:

The booth frame looks fantastic Thumbs Up

Keep going.

Thanks! I guess it's fantastic looking... Confused

(I know it'll really only look good to me when it's actually finished!)

I wish I could work on it this evening, but alas, we have a meeting to go to.... grrrrr

Oh well, the plan is to get after it early tomorrow and hit it hard. I hope to finish the entire Iso Booth this weekend.

The fire blocking is probably going to take longer than I expect it to, so that's why I'm hoping to complete the room this weekend.

On a "fun" note... the Pemko door hardware has arrived for two of the doors! I'm still waiting for the Zero International seals to arrive.

Once they do, I might have to break off from framing walls to get the main loading door installed.

The roofing/gutter contractor stopped by this morning to pick a few things up I said he could leave here... (it pays to be nice to your contractors)... and we discussed the fact that the roof over the parking pad is not going to happen... And what the plan would be for the siding and gutters.

He's going to try to get the last of the siding up Tues or Wed of next week. Then he'll get the gutters done.

As his schedule is actually light for the next week or two, he suggested I ask a couple of the guys on his crew if they would like to maybe pick up a couple of days worth of work helping me with the framing. Being as far behind as I had hoped I would be at this point, I'm seriously considering it. I guess it will depend on how much the guys will want to help out... we'll have to cross that bridge next week.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:18 pm

I have been working rather diligently on the Iso Booth framing. However, I should note that being the good husband I am, I've managed to share the flu with the Mrs.

As one would expect, she's just thrilled with the situation. Poor girl, she's got it alright. Thankfully not as bad as I did. So I've been trying to take care of her as much as I can and she'll let me.

Progress has been kinda' slow, but I hope worth it, and I hope done right.

Here you can see that yes, I did indeed use "fire caulk" to seal the blocking in the exterior wall.

I should also note that there is still edge banding to put up around the joists on the ceiling of the Iso Booth.

I received a call early this morning. It was the guys who said they would be interested in helping with the framing. They were unable to work another site today and wanted to know if I would be interested in them working today... Uhhh, DUH!

Well, the guys showed up about 9:30. We went all over the drawings of the rear control room wall. Once we started measuring and marking the location of the studs, they got busy... and I mean BUSY!

We started by removing the blocking at the lounge ceiling height. Once that was done, we started putting up the new studs.

After the new studs were in, I redrilled and set the lags for the lounge ceiling band in the new studs. Once the band was again secured, we cut the old studs loose and removed them as high as the lounge ceiling.

We then cut in the 2x8 let-in header for the top of the equipment bays and set the blocking. That got us to the point of adding the new blocking to help support the lounge ceiling band. We'll continue with the last of that wall by cutting in the 2x6 fire blocking let-in. That will probably be Thursday.

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I believe this only one of two edits I've had to do in the time I've started this thread... It's important enough that it does need to be here. I did fail to note that the entire process was indeed as easy as Rod had indicated it should be.

This NEEDS to be a big HUGE note to anyone foolish enough to try this insanity... When in doubt, GET A CONTRACTOR/TRADESMAN WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING!

I have been SO fortunate to have found contractors who are willing to put up with my relentless questions... and who have the knowledge to know how to do the job right. The payoff is in the quickness with which their knowledge allows them to work.

A contractor should be able to show you a much easier, better or safer way to accomplish what you need to.
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In the mean time, I'll try to get the bottom blocking and supports in the equipment bays.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:16 pm

MadMax wrote:

I should also note that there is still edge banding to put up around the joists on the ceiling of the Iso Booth.

Max.....

that confuses me a bit - the outside band should be a continuous member - and it looks like those joist are almost touching the outside wall........... please assure me that we are maintaining our minimum 1" of clearance

Are you putting the outside bands in a pieces of blocking in these weird layouts?

If the answer is "yes" you are causing yourself a whole lot of extra work that doesn't need to be..........

Rod

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:35 pm

Rod...

It's evidently the angle at which I'm shooting and the flash... The 1" gap IS there. I see what you are talking about... there just isn't much shadow angle to see the gap. I had to shoot a slight bounce flash so that I didn't burn out the images.

The ends of the joists are just over 2.5" from the exterior wall on the "right" (North Wall). The "back" (West) exterior wall distance is just over 2.75" at the fire blocking... as the west wall is just a bit out of plumb and my top plate position is just a touch shifted to the interior of the wall.

I marked the inside edge of the rafters at 1.5" in from the outside edge of the top plate. So, when I put up the continuous bands, they will indeed be at least 1" from the fire blocking.

I'll see if I can get a shot down the 1" gap... I tried 3 shots already, but they just didn't turn out as anything recognizable.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:33 am

Sorry to ask a stoopid question... OK... ANOTHER stoopid question. It's about the ridge vent... There are evidently 2 basic styles around here; low profile and high profile. Is there any reason to use one over the other - other than cosmetics? The high profile allows more air volume doesn't it? Which with the heat down here, I would think would be the preferred vent to install.

Thanx!
Max

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:53 pm

No reason for one over the other - the low profile looks more like a ridge cap than a vent - and yes- I believe the high profile allows fo ra bit more air flow.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:00 pm

Been a coupla' days since I posted anything I know, but things have indeed been going on.

LOT'S has been going on!

Let's see... oh yeah, first things first... my wife has also learned to share... So, she's shared the flu with me again!

Now that I'm actually reasonably vertical and under my own power... shaky and short of steam, but under my own power, none the less... I've made it outside with the camera.

The gutters, downspouts and ridge vents are installed!

The rear Control Room wall is completed!

The interior rear Control Room wall is complete!!

The main front control Room wall is standing!

This is the view from inside the CR looking into the tracking room.

The front 3 walls of the Tracking Room are up!

This is looking from the Tracking Room into the Control Room.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:10 am

The framing continues...

The thing that bothers me is that I discussed the interior door's header construction with the framers. I showed them the prints and I thought we all understood the prints before I left to go get more lumber. When I came back, they had installed a triple 2x12 header instead of the 2x6 insulation filled box w/2x8 header top as designed. We can still add a filler plate to the back side of the header to match the other door/wing walls. Rod, is that going to be acceptable to do? If not, I will need to let the framers know ASAP tomorrow morning.

The header construction of theinterior door is essentially the same as the headers for the Iso Booth and the Mic Locker/Closet; 2-2x12's, .5" OSB and a 2x12 forming a solid sandwich.

I spent most of yesterday sweeping up a huge pile of sawdust and picking up scraps. I moved all of the wood into the Control Room as the stock room and using the Tracking Room as the cutting room.

I did manage to get the strapping on the big wall done. I moved all the insulation into the corner of the lounge to get it out of the way. The view above is looking through the lounge door down the Hall/Iso to the Tracking Room.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:45 am

MadMax wrote:

The thing that bothers me is that I discussed the interior door's header construction with the framers. I showed them the prints and I thought we all understood the prints before I left to go get more lumber. When I came back, they had installed a triple 2x12 header instead of the 2x6 insulation filled box w/2x8 header top as designed. We can still add a filler plate to the back side of the header to match the other door/wing walls. Rod, is that going to be acceptable to do? If not, I will need to let the framers know ASAP tomorrow morning.

The header construction of theinterior door is essentially the same as the headers for the Iso Booth and the Mic Locker/Closet; 2-2x12's, .5" OSB and a 2x12 forming a solid sandwich.

max,

you want them to use my details -

The problem is that you are loosing the air spring in those locations - and it will decrease your isolation in the wall as a whole.......

That's the reason I hold my headers as designed unless I need more beef for structural reasons - at which point - well you llive with what you have to live with.........

Make them fix it - except for time in the real world - it's their screw up and should not cost you a penny........

sorry buddy...........

Rod

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:19 am

Rod,

Not a problem at all.

I was concerned about the isolation factor for good reason then. I mean, you designed the header the way you did for a reason!

I'll have them fix it ASAP. I just didn't want them to proceed with the wing walls and get the assembly all locked in and THEN have to undo it all.

THANX!!!

Max

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:35 pm

Today was just about as crazy as it gets...

The framers showed up, pretty much unexpectedly. I discussed them needing to change the door header at the interior double door.

I gave them a hand getting that 2x12 header out and getting the correct header put in.

On the way to the day gig, I was "forced" to get my car inspected. It had definitely expired, and rather than deal with a $250 fine... I got the vehicle inspected.

I got a call from the framers about the walls not quite squaring up. (uhtoh)

So... I zip back to the house... We finally figured out that the door header above the Iso Booth is 1/4" too short. How we missed that, I dunno.

About the time we got that all sussed out, the 2x12 rafters and 2x6x16's show up for the Control Room side walls show up. There's another 30 minutes shot, just getting the lumber in a position that's acceptable.

We jumped on the first master rafter. After a couple of tries, we got that all lined out. Then we had to get the blocking for the edge band figured out along with the joist placement. Then the guys started on the fire blocking for the right hand Control Room wall, (against the exterior wall).

I had to leave to take care of a few things...
This is what I came home to:

The reason the joists are not actually following the wall of the Control Room that angles backwards, is because we will be building the side walls and then build up the angled walls to meet the side walls.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:25 am

The walls to the Control Room are up!

And yes... there really is a 1" gap between the walls

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:56 am

I got the LVL Beam ordered for the tracking room yesterday afternoon.

It should be delivered on Tuesday morning!

I also stopped and picked up double 2x12 joist hangers and nails for the duct penetrations for the Control Room.

One thing I haven't really done in this thread is actually keep up with the costs...

Here's the skinny so far;

Exterior finish materials; $2500
Sand for floor (32 Cu Yd); $750 - 3 delivery charges totaling $150 hurt!
R19 Insulation; $300 (Got a LOT more to get!)
Studio audio wiring; $7200 (Tracking room plates to console area-Input, Cat6, midi and headphone mixes)
Initial Electrical (including a tone of LV PVC) $2900
5/8 Gypsum/furring strips for exterior stud cavities $400
8 (more) Cu Yd of sand, 32 tons of 6/7 stone and 10 tons of ABC $1300
Got the bill from the block mason... $1200
First round of PT lumber... $75 (a bit more to get) maybe another $75 so we'll call it $150
Lumber for lounge ceiling joists, studio walls - $1200
Lumber for the roof rafters of the lounge - $250
Plywood for lounge roof - $160
Contractor (including shingles for lounge) - $600
Contractor Labor to put on the Hardie Plank siding, soffit/facia, birdboxing, etc... $2000
Exterior caulking for Hardie Plank - $100
2 (more) cases of OSI SC-175 - $75
$1043 2 doors worth of door hardware - $1043
Gutters/Downspouts and roof vents - $1400
Front Parking Pad and ADA Sidewalk - $4200
Misc Lumber for Framing - $400
Labor for Framing $700
2x12's for CR Rafters and 2x6's for CR Framing - $1000
LVL Beam and hardware; (765+75) $840

Total Expenses to date - $30,268

I had originally budgeted $40k... HA! What the hell was I thinking!?!?

Still left:
Doors/Door hardware - $3000
Plumbing - $5000
Electrical - $5000-$7000
HVAC - $15,000 - $30,000
MDF, Gypsum, 703 - $1000
Flooring finish - $1500
Lounge cabinets/counter tops/fridge - $10,000
Total left (est) =$45,000 - $60,000

Plus I probably have at least another $1200-$2000 in landscaping that I may have to do to make the inspectors happy...

Oh yeah... and the inspection fees!!