I can't even form coherent thoughts because your ignorance is causing me blind rage.
If all you do is record friends, why don't you use Waves demo program, or rent Pro Tools plugs (I think might even be on sale this month)? All you need is an iLok, and those only run $35. Ask the bands to pay for the rental of the plugs - very cheap for a band to do.
And holy sh*t, Waves has 20% off sales ALL the time - right now it's for the SSL Bundle. And if you can't afford the nicer bundles, that's what the Native Power Pack is for - give or take $400. Haggle with dealers, if you have to. If you can't afford the necessary tools, you really do need to get out of the game. And if you can't get something decent with the tools that are given to you, you need to check your chops. These plugs aren't going to make your amateur records.
And you are taking away from people. Do you think Waves develops what they have for free? They have people to pay, and the dealers need to make money. It all trickles down, my friend.
Did you steal your computer? Did you steal your Pro Tools? Did you steal the mics and cables? I certainly hope not.
Bottom line, if there's something on the market (anything, be it hard or soft goods) that has a price, and you don't pay ANYTHING, it's stealing.
Oh, and to top it off, cracked software offers no support and can totally corrupt your system. Why take that chance?
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I'm not stealing something that someone else needs to do their job. I'm merely using a copy. That is not taking away from anybody. Either way, there's no way I'm going to be able to buy these anytime soon. It seems like you guys have the wrong idea. I record bands that are friends of mine and I don't charge that much. I'm not hurting anybody by downloading plugins. It's not like I have a lot of money, but I choose to download them because I'm stingy or something. I would absolutely love to buy them, but there's no way I'd be able to anytime soon. I know, I know, I'm a terrible person for downloading and I'm never going to succeed at anything as long as I live. Right? I'm a senior in high school, getting ready to go to college. It's not like I'm some big time engineer.
Bollocks.
What would you do if the cracks were not available? Presumambly you would look around at other plugs (many of which are as good as the Waves stuff) which might fit better into your budget. Eg; Voxengo, Kjaerhus, Wavearts etc. Therefore you are hurting these guys if not Waves. Sort it out.
I can't even form coherent thoughts because your ignorance is causing me blind rage.
If all you do is record friends, why don't you use Waves demo program, or rent Pro Tools plugs (I think might even be on sale this month)? All you need is an iLok, and those only run $35. Ask the bands to pay for the rental of the plugs - very cheap for a band to do.
And holy sh*t, Waves has 20% off sales ALL the time - right now it's for the SSL Bundle. And if you can't afford the nicer bundles, that's what the Native Power Pack is for - give or take $400. Haggle with dealers, if you have to. If you can't afford the necessary tools, you really do need to get out of the game. And if you can't get something decent with the tools that are given to you, you need to check your chops. These plugs aren't going to make your amateur records.
And you are taking away from people. Do you think Waves develops what they have for free? They have people to pay, and the dealers need to make money. It all trickles down, my friend.
Did you steal your computer? Did you steal your Pro Tools? Did you steal the mics and cables? I certainly hope not.
Bottom line, if there's something on the market (anything, be it hard or soft goods) that has a price, and you don't pay ANYTHING, it's stealing.
Oh, and to top it off, cracked software offers no support and can totally corrupt your system. Why take that chance?
I actually appreciate this post a lot. It seems like everybody else just wants to put me down. I didn't even know about renting. I've been recording with a pc for about a year now. Before that I used multitrack recorders. I got into recording with a computer because a guy from around here sort of recruited me because he liked what I was doing. I hadn't even heard of waves before I met him, and he had everything on the computer. I guess I just assumed that most people downloaded stuff. I couldn't believe that people shelled out the cash, unless they were in a big studio.
I apologize if I offended anyone due to my misunderstanding.
Just for the simple fact of defending myself, I'd like to say that my recordings aren't as bad everyone probably thinks they are. They're by no means perfect, but I can say I'm proud of what I've done so far, and I've had a lot of fun doing it. Plus, there aren't any good studios in Delaware anyway.
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I'll bet you're wondering where your link went....arent you...
Since you say you're a student living on mom and dad's money, and you've shown absolutely NO REMORSE for using cracked programs (I'm not hurting anyone...........bullshit) You will no longer be able to post ANY music on here.
I personally take a dim view of anyone doing this kind of thing.
I dont care if you feel picked on and I dont think that being proud of your work is gonna cut you any slack with the pros and semipros on here that shell out their cash to get decent programs for their projects.
So, since this is student-time, heres your lesson.
Learn it. Ya wanna save money on software, buy it from someone whos licensed and is moving up to something else.
Like has been said, the plugs and such dont make your recordings better.
Remember, any post here with a link to music from you will be deleted.
Until you learn the lesson thats being taught here and you come clean with that knowledge.
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Since you say you're a student living on mom and dad's money, and you've shown absolutely NO REMORSE for using cracked programs (I'm not hurting anyone...........bullshit) You will no longer be able to post ANY music on here.
Actually.. My dad passed away on September 27, 2007. I visited my mom for the first time in five years a couple weeks ago. I'm living with a cousin right now, finishing high school, until I go to college. So NO, I'm not living off of mom and dad's money... I'm not saying that in hopes that I'll make you feel bad, because you probably won't. I can deal with everything that's been said so far, because for the most part, I deserve it. I honestly don't think it's right that you just assume something like that.
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