New to Recording

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:24 pm

I do not trust usb Mr. Greener and as a protocol I think a user will outgrow it sooner rather than later. Issues can arise that, without proper understanding, can plaque the experience. Usb depends on the computer to make decisions and as more devices are added, more problems can arise. If too much information is being sent to the computer and a collision is pending who is to say what device will get priority? Audio drops happen and noise becomes an issue and the user doesn't even realize what is going on and where to begin taking steps to correct this.

Sure, for one or two tracks this may be fine. And I do not remember calling you out but simply stating usb is not a starting place for A/V. Well, maybe I was wrong. I suppose a school child with a Parents CC would have to look at the low cost that usb provides. But rather then start at the bottom, why not find a middle ground that one can grow from?

I understand from your previous post you are quite the lexical technician so please correct my impoverished scribblings as you see relevant Wink

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:21 pm

I wouldn't call an MBox premium. It is as basic as they get. There are other solutions. Presonus Firebox is nice also. In the end, you get what you pay for. You can spend on the cheap gear if you wish but you'll just end up spending more when it breaks down or when you've realized it was a poor choice.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:24 pm

Incidentally: I've used plenty of usb devices without any problems. No, they won't multitrack and that's ok if you're just recording yourself for now. If you're on a budget that's fine too. Don't put yourself into debt over a learning tool. If you're going to end up in a studio anyway, you're home audio gear won't be the main focus.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:10 pm

My small laptop satchel contains;

Asus a8js laptop (It's expensive but I wanted to play games too, you can get dual core stuff for less).

power supply and lead (it causes horrendous ground noise when playing back through 99% of amps even through the edirol so play back is only 1.5 hours battery time but recording is infinite on AC(problem can be fixed see http://recording.org/ftopict-46863.html )).

Behringer xm8500 mic (cheap and not nasty).

mic lead (Got it free with the Edirol, twisted his arm I did).
Sennheiser Hd 220 pro headphones (Again cheapish and not nasty. I like the extra bass goodness and comfort fator, plus they're indestructible, cables disconnect, ear pieces disconnect all round winner).

Usb cable (came free with a printer).

Edirol Ua-25 external USB2.0 (cheap and not nasty)

All this is a small bag means I can record what improv sessions we play anywhere or set up and record individual tracks in a good sound space and create finished products slowly.
Also this bag of stuff is enough for me to record things for other people for money. Alot of commercial recordings are just some dude with one mic a preamp d2a and a DAT recorder. Symphonies, Live rcordings of events of all types only on one track. Just Advertise you can do it and people hire you... Funny huh.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:33 pm

Yes sir, funny.
I have come to understand that "recording gear" and "recording studio" are interchangeable in use. But didn't the OP say "im looking to set up a home studio,"?

Or are you the original poster? In any event, your happy with your gear and you should be. Your making some extra coin and that's always a good thing. I believe ya. I believe the usb, as you say, 2.0 is valid. It works...far out!!!!

What you are doing now is something that always gets me in predicaments.

Your talking too much.

You've said your piece but now your throwing in trash like "Alot of commercial recordings are just some dude with one mic a preamp d2a and a DAT recorder. Symphonies, Live rcordings of events of all types only on one track. "

Now run along and go see if you can make yourself useful somewhere.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:49 pm

Space wrote:

Your talking too much.

I thought I was typing...

/My bag of stuff + about 5 more of the same cheap mics and cables, a cheap 8 channel preamp/mixer set up well with some sound proofing material in a large room with the band and there normal playing gear if you could mix it down to stereo before recording (thought recording all tracks individually would be a big help for post mixing and mastering) could record something of the quality of say Nirvanas Bleach - Track 7
Anyone who disagrees please let me know at length. I love to learn.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:01 pm

That is an excellent topic Mr. Greener. Rather then hijack this thread would it not be more adventurous to begin a separate thread?

I think you would have many that can appreciate the notion and would be willing to take part.

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:15 pm

What's with that 'Space' attitude??
These forums are for people to share advice. Being arrogant, condescending and flippant is the mark of a troll.. if you only post to try to tick people off and draw attention to your massive ego.. then maybe 'Space' should "run in the other direction, and save your money for more pressing issues like keeping a roof over your head."

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:16 am

Mr. Greener and I are ok with each other, but thanks for noticing.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:43 am

So, why do you call me Mr. Greener?

And, yeah I was hijacking with long winded insults.

Interesting times.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:55 am

Greener wrote:

So, why do you call me Mr. Greener?

And, yeah I was hijacking with long winded insults.

Interesting times.

It adds an element of distance and a touch of respect.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:17 pm

Play nice, fellas!

Nothing wrong with hijacking, we do it all the time, usually for humorous reasons.

Back to the original topic, or make me laugh... Yer choice...

Laughing

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:27 pm

Space, your six hundred and sixty sixth post was so waisted.
Unless you meant to make me paranoid Razz

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:36 pm

My 666th post looked like this:

Twisted Evil

Nothing more...

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:36 pm

Though it may have been this:

Evil or Very Mad

Now I can't remember...

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