when to use LDCs as OHs

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:55 pm

bent wrote:

Do not for once think you've got it all nailed down and figured out, it just doesn't work that way.

with all due respect ben, nevermind... i don't want to drag this one out... Razz

i'm very very sure that i have a complete-enough mic locker for my scope of work, except for an LDC like i said.

i dont think i can afford 2 of the 414s yet. i'm narrowed down to a set of AT40xx's if i get a pair, or maybe a babybottle, or a bluebird, or nt2, or at4040 or at4033, or ksm27, or if i just get 1 mic.

i guess that's where i've been trying to go with this thread.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:29 pm

rockstardave wrote:

Davedog wrote:

Appropriate is dictated by the sound needed, the recording space and the gear available.

duh of course, that's the canned answer i've been waiting for. with all due respect, that's just rephrasing my question. how about this then:

I saw no need to completely reiterate what Remy had so perfectly explained so I simply summed it up and agreed with her.

If you think thats a 'stock answer' and I owe you anything more than that, you are mistaken.

BTW. If you have such a complete locker and are as knowledgeable as you claim, why ask in the first place?

Here's my not so stock answer.

Its only appropriate to use LDC's for overheads when it calls for it.

I guess the trick is knowing when that is.

I know when it is.

Remy knows when it is.

Ben knows when it is.

So does most of the folks who have spent their time typing out an answer to a question that only YOU can answer and only when the situation calls for it as an answer.

Stock enough for ya buckwheat?

And BTW where's my ALL DUE RESPECT?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:06 pm

Davedog wrote:

Is it just us 'elderly' folks that like the drums to crush when being played back???

I used to measure the cone excursion on the big JBL's to determine if the drums were truly kicking ass in a proper way.

I am with Remy on this one.

Appropriate is dictated by the sound needed, the recording space and the gear available.

yes it is... And i no longer Engineer.... but still feel that way when watching a client play drums and all of the inline comps are peaking...

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:01 am

If you can afford to, always purchase your microphones in pairs. So, yeah! Repeat after me, " I want a pair of LDC. I want a pair of LDC. I want a pair of LDC". Remember to click your magic headphones together when saying that.

Ms. Poof!.......

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:24 am

RemyRAD wrote:

If you can afford to, always purchase your microphones in pairs. So, yeah! Repeat after me, " I want a pair of LDC. I want a pair of LDC. I want a pair of LDC". Remember to click your magic headphones together when saying that.

Ms. Poof!.......

now thats the first good info i've found in this thread!

i guess all that all my talk and pseudo-arrogance is justified, now that i got an answer.

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If you think thats a 'stock answer' and I owe you anything more than that, you are mistaken.

A. "it depends on ________" is the most common answer on this forum. i bet that if i did a search for "it depends", i'd get more results than any other search would.! haha jk of course.

B. i never said you owe me anything. it's a free forum. participate if you want, lurk if you want.

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BTW. If you have such a complete locker and are as knowledgeable as you claim, why ask in the first place?

because asking questions is how you find answers to things that you don't know.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:49 am

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when is a pair of dynamics more useful as overheads than condensers?

When there's no phantom on the mixer? Smile

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:39 am

lead_ears WINS THE BIG PRIZE!

Know all you have to do is figure out where the on button is?
Ms. Remy Ann David

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:29 am

droc8705 wrote:

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What I wonder is "when is a pair of dynamics more useful as overheads than condensers".

some what along the same lines, i'd throw in the question of when ribbons are appropriate for overheads? i purchased a matched pair of cascade fatheads and they just arrived yesterday and the first thing i did was throw them up for overheads...not what i expected, but oh well.

I'd like to add to what Joe said -

Bear in mind, if you use ribbons on overheads, you're probably going to want to reach for the EQ. The great thing is that ribbon mics do better with EQ than other types of mics. I've found using ribbons on overheads (either SF12, SF1, 121, Beyer M130s/M160s) that I pull the high EQ up quite a bit. Sometimes a shelf as high as 8 to 10 or more dB. Try it - you'll like it.

J.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:03 am

thanks jeremy...i figured that much. like i said, i did it in a hurry, didn't even check for phase issues, i just wanted to track something with them merely cuz i felt like a kid on christmas morning since they'd just arrived. i'll give it another go though later this week and i'll let you know and joe how it turns out.

thanks again,

-dave

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