Coiling Wires

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:36 pm

This is teh helpful.
When I coil stuff I don't do over/under, but more over-over-over-over, which is a big fault I guess.
I like the current method: when it works, it's irrelevant what end you uncoil from. Usually it fails and requires a bit of untangling.

Is the point of over/under largely to keep the cable straight and not damage shielding?

If you follow the rotten instructions I gave for the hand motion, I use that to bring some cables into a pile at my feet, and then over-over-over (no, as of now, over/under) coil it.
I reckon it would make a rotten job of coiling but would be lightning fast at doing the job, but maybe because I can actually make my hands a blur when doing that. Or was the blur caused by the drink...
Anyway, forget that. If I work it out and manage to over/under coil using it then I'll post it to youtube and you can watch.

Also, I hate the elbow coil thing. Who came up with it and why do people think it's good?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:04 pm

Quote:

Is the point of over/under largely to keep the cable straight and not damage shielding?

Yes, that - and quality - and standardization; and, dare I say - craftsmanship!

Oh, I thought of another reason I do it:

PRIDE

Because:
I'm an engineer.
I'm a technician.
I'm a professional.
I'm proud of my work.

(It's the little things that count - think about it)

Quote:

Pat Armstrong...uuughh...Molly Flaccid...UGHHHH!!!!!!!!! They ripped me off many moons ago. Does PARC have some 451's,M500's, 421's,and a U87 with my SS# on them????

Moon,

I just saw this!

Yeah, that SOB probably does.
I know beyond a doubt that he still has my Skil Saw from back when I was nice enough to bring it in and help rebuild Studio B!!!

(Even my wife is ticked off about that)

Small world, indeed!

Off-topic (Surprise!)...

I had to jump through a dozen hoops today searching across the country for a damn 441 Windscreen!

It is hard as hell to find a 441 Windscreen these days!

( I have 5 on back-order from Senn. - will not be available until 7/28 )

Jeezus H!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:22 am

Wow. I thought you just bunch them up and stuff them into milk crates. That way, they all come out at once.
Rolling Eyes

Kapt.Krunch

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:42 am

Kapt.Krunch wrote:

Wow. I thought you just bunch them up and stuff them into milk crates. That way, they all come out at once.
Rolling Eyes

Kapt.Krunch

You gots milk crates? What luxury!

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:03 am

Milk crates...I got two plastic boxes and a stage full of incompetence. Found a cable last night wrapped into a roll about, oh, 3" wide.
Time for a rant unto the band. Mic stand 101 and cable coiling basics.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:57 am

LOL TWB, some good advice. Do you have interns head butting you often?

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:25 am

OK, I'm clueless. Just grabbed a cable, about 30 feet of coax aerial lead (annoying stuff) and taught myself to flip-coil.

Should I start with the male or female connector (standard?), and...
What do I do with the ends? Bent's link from about 30 posts ago summarises too much.
Should I wrap one end around all the loops a few times, or
should I knot both ends together? Or should I ignore the cable and do the YMCA?

PS: only 2 of about 25 cables we own have a velcro strap on them.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:31 am

Code, do not knot your cables.

Get one foot of string, tie it around one end of the cable and double knot it. Make it so you have half the string either side of the knot. The use this to tie a bow around the whole coil.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:44 am

String...you're more likely to find a comfy pew than a foot length of string in our church.

Thanks, somehow the thought of knotting didn't sound too good now I think about it.
Although our cables are cheap anyway. The most expensive cable belongs to a guitarist, who coils his $50 cable (pfft) using the elbow-hand "technique". I shall point out unto him, the error of his ways.

I do NOT look forward to doing this with the snake Sad

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:48 am

Sometimes the Lord provides. Sometimes you need to go to the store.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:01 pm

I've yet to see velcro ties anywhere in town. The major music retailer went into administration a while ago (I think they were bought over though).
I need something like this place...

But string, I have. Whether I can get 20 feet of it is another matter...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:28 am

Yesterday, after jambing, I coiled up everything and set it down to pack away _then_ I noticed for the first time I've done quick over-under subconsciously.
Total time to convert from just looping then untwisting to over-under; four pitches and strikes.
Time well spent. Thanks for all the info guys.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:53 pm

Excellent!

BTW, it's JAMMING, not JAMBING.

A door JAMB has nothing to do with your playing music (or does it???)...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:06 pm

bent wrote:

Excellent!

BTW, it's JAMMING, not JAMBING.

A door JAMB has nothing to do with your playing music (or does it???)...

I thought it might have been a meld of the French word "jambon" for ham and jamming or simply, in English terms, HAMMING.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:03 pm

I refer to it as either "musical chaos" (or "normality" if it's rehearsal night). Razz

I've forced over over at about 10" circles, I think. My wrists are already feeling better not having to force the ever increasing twist onto 12 feet of cable...

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