Pics From YOUR Studio

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:47 pm

Beautiful pictures.

I too cannot quite figure out what is with all of this tape measuring stupid stuff? What? You don't know how to eyeball something? I've never needed to measure any capsule to capsule. It's idiotic. It's only guidelines. You use your ears. Not something from a textbook. OMG!

So how long is the stroke on the piston in your engine? Do you really care? Does it run alright without you knowing? Or, do you think you should measure the stroke because the engine isn't running at its peak like you think it should? Fugetaboutit!

Laughing myself into a stroke
Ms. Remy Ann David

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:07 pm

RemyRAD wrote:

Beautiful pictures.

I too cannot quite figure out what is with all of this tape measuring stupid stuff? What? You don't know how to eyeball something? I've never needed to measure any capsule to capsule. It's idiotic. It's only guidelines. You use your ears. Not something from a textbook. OMG!

So how long is the stroke on the piston in your engine? Do you really care? Does it run alright without you knowing? Or, do you think you should measure the stroke because the engine isn't running at its peak like you think it should? Fugetaboutit!

Laughing myself into a stroke
Ms. Remy Ann David

Dave, your girl is utterly obnoxious. I know I'm not allow to tell the truth around here, but dang...

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:06 pm

Nobody said anything about the truth.

Perceptions are what fueled the subject.

It really is KINDA funny.........

And even though its given in an obnoxious way, the fact is, its true about the measuring .. its all about the ears.

Dont let it harsh your day.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:09 pm

Davedog wrote:

Nobody said anything about the truth.

Perceptions are what fueled the subject.

It really is KINDA funny.........

And even though its given in an obnoxious way, the fact is, its true about the measuring .. its all about the ears.

Dont let it harsh your day.

hehe - Dave, you're transparent. It's funny. But don't worry, you're only perceived as transparent. What you actually are, God only knows.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:45 pm

Wow - This is really strange - I don't know that I have ever seen this on this forum (or any other for that matter), but a member is being bashed by a moderator because he does something technically different in his studio that he purchased with his money? That's pretty sad. Almost like communist Russia.

"Ye shall think like the Solar Federation or be called stupid and idiotic".

Voicing an opinion is one thing, but publicly degrading someone for the way they choose to produce their music is appalling. I listened to the demos and I think it sounds fantastic through my system - Good work - Keep doing what you're doing and fuggem - They can get a life. Or better yet they can post some links to their wonderful works of musical art that were created with the Solar Federation mindset. I think I sense a small tinge of jealously, no?

Don't be upset, just voicing an opinion. It shouldn't ruin your day.

Hop-Scotching down the highway.

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:51 am

Ye shall think like the Solar Federation or be called stupid and idiotic".

Thats a bit more Pythonesque than Commie Ruskie dont you think???

"You will be tortured with.......................THE COMFY CHAIR.........."

As for my letting any light through my person, at 250 and a stone it aint gonna happen...... Cool

Anyway.......Ya'll need to lighten up. This isnt all that serious. Have fun, drink good beer, relax...The only way you can be offended is to allow it..........

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:03 pm

Glide wrote:

Wow - This is really strange - I don't know that I have ever seen this on this forum (or any other for that matter), but a member is being bashed by a moderator because he does something technically different in his studio that he purchased with his money? That's pretty sad. Almost like communist Russia.

"Ye shall think like the Solar Federation or be called stupid and idiotic".

Voicing an opinion is one thing, but publicly degrading someone for the way they choose to produce their music is appalling. I listened to the demos and I think it sounds fantastic through my system - Good work - Keep doing what you're doing and fuggem - They can get a life. Or better yet they can post some links to their wonderful works of musical art that were created with the Solar Federation mindset. I think I sense a small tinge of jealously, no?

Don't be upset, just voicing an opinion. It shouldn't ruin your day.

Hop-Scotching down the highway.

Oh good, I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees it. I thought I might be going crazy.

New on Fox this fall: When Moderator Attack! Laughing

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:34 am

This is actually kinda' hysterical stuff...

None of you young kids can even fathom how ruthless this industry really is, can you?

Granted, I really cannot say why Remy's taken a bit more of a hardass line over the past few months, but so what.. deal with it.

This forum has generally always been, and still is rather polite... you should have experienced rec.audio.pro or the Rec Pit. You woulda' ended up going home and crying to your momma that someone took away your lollypop on the playground.

Grow some nads, put hair on em' and deal with it. If someone like Remy, an industry veteran who deserves the respect of a fulltime working professional, says something is stoopid, maybe you should toughen the hide on your buttcheeks and attempt to learn from what she's telling you, or defend your side of the statement which drew the criticism.

As far as being attacked by a moderator... you haven't been attacked... you have only been mildly barked at... jebus. Go over to the womb and post this thread in slippy's forum... THEN you'll find out about being attacked by a moderator, or 12.

If you can't accept that there are full time professionals that will have serious differences of opinions of your work, then maybe this isn't the right industry for you. It's tough, mean, brutal and ruthless. There isn't room at the top for wimps or oversensitive types. The dollars for those that want to do this full time are dwindling right now. The quality of the craft of recording is being diluted and polluted with cheap gear, the lure of easy money and the lie that this is easy stuff to do. So, every paycheck is hard fought for.

Good work is generally appreciated by the pros. Its expected from everyone that puts product out there. High standards are what anyone with a commitment to their craft should be seeking.

If someone calls bullshit, then either accept it and learn from it, or defend yourself. If you can't see to do either... get the hell out of the kitchen.

Did you even think about it this way... that maybe, just maybe, the criticism is intended to make you think and maybe get you to try to move your standards up to the next level?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:45 am

I can honestly say that is probably the most idiotic post I have read on a public forum....droning on and on and on and on and on.....

Mrbwnstn - Your production sounds great - really, it does - Keep doing exactly what you are doing. And let the ones that can't seem to post links to their stuff sit and stew in it.

Really, I would like to compare the sound of the two on my system. I have Mrbwnstn's link and I have heard it - Let the "pros" post theirs, I would like to compare and see this "huge" difference in sound.

That's request number two - easy enough request - post a link to your stuff and let's compare.

By the way, I am sure that Remy and the Dog have links to literally hundreds of songs they have done, probably many top 10 hits, but no need to post them all. Just post one or two so I can play them on my system and compare them to the one that the greenhorn Mrbwnstn posted. I am ready to be amazed.

So to your wonderful term above, Mr. MadMax - I am indeed calling B.S. - Put up or Shut up. That's easy enough.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:17 pm

Hello?...echo...echo...echo

Testing 1, 2, 3...this thing on?

Got a little warm in this kitchen didn't it, Max?

Still waiting on those links to the grammy award winning musical productions Remy:

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:37 pm

I love checking out other's recording set-ups and tracking techniques so I thought I'd share some of my own. I didn't know 80% of the responses would be in the form of snarky/bitchy comments. /quote

Hi Mr. mrbwnstn, I stopped in for a moment to see why this thread is swelling in post size. I think it's the pictures...yea, a picture is worth a thousand words. I like to be able to see what people are talking about, so this would help me.

But I'm no good at recording...gotta know yer limits eh? But I'm good at math. Did you know that up until the point that you stated "80%...snarky/bitchy" it was actually 0%? It is true.

You have been on this website, and others I am certain, but this one specifically for 3 years plus. That is a long time. It is certainly long enough to understand that some things are going to be commented on in specific ways and should be viewed completely, not broken down to individual words.

Take Greener out of the thread and there really hasn't been a disruption.

Anyway, enjoyed the shots but in the end what is accomplished? You had to know what you were getting into Smile

Glide: maybe start a thread with your personal aside?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:07 pm

I have reread this thread a dozen times and I still havent found the part where ANYONE has said the material presented sounded like shit.

Could someone direct me to this?

I also havent found the point in which ANYONE said that the techniques presented werent doing the tasks required of them.

I would really like this information upfront.

I also havent been able to find any 'attacks' other than Remy saying the methodology wasnt something she would particularly revel in and THIS is just an opinion like many others opinions on this forum.

My point, once again, is to simply NOT take someones strong, perhaps a bit over the top, but still basically true and honest take on a subject and twist it into something its not nor was intended to be.

I dont see why there has to be some contest between parties when there has been no gauntlet thrown nor any real criticism of the RESULTS of this effort.

My own critique was centered around the mic of choice for the snare, which mrbwnstn himself said wasnt a great choice for ALL the material involved in the project. I felt I agreed with him on this. Remy was a bit more over-the-top with her comments regarding this, but I still dont see it as a condemnation of anything about the sound quality of the project. Certainly not an ATTACK! I feel like the sound values of the raw recorded tracks will give this project ample amounts of leeway to achieve a quality mix at that time.

I have certainly heard and produced worse in my time.

I cannot say what mrbwnstn and mr.glide are reading into this series of posts, but in stepping back and reading it from an entirely neutral standpoint I'm not seeing the reasoning behind these responses.

Call me thick or stupid but its a long way from what you seem to be portraying. I'm trying to be politically correct here and hopefully this thread , which I am enjoying on a personal level, continues to be civilized and doesnt require any heavyhanded 'moderating' just simply keep it from devolving into a shitfest.

If it does, well, I hope it doesnt.

Moderating 101. Incase you think I'm being a flake or something...... Wink

P.S. I thought about this for a little while, and I will add this thought. IF you have an ego about capturing tracks then you will have a problem somewhere down the line working with a serious producer. I dont know any specifics of your project, mrbwnstn, but from what I gather you are all combining gear and working in virtual harmony to get your tracks and then shipping them out for a mix. This GREAT! I do the same . But at the same time, I also know from experience what its like to do basics as an engineer rather than an ARTIST recording themselves. While it is true that you have the time and the means to 'experiment' and get what you want , and this gives you a great sense of pride in doing a great job, it is FAR from the norm or the reality of working as a group in this business. Its good to be proud of the job you've done. BRAVO! Seriously. Its not good to have an EGO about it. Your reactions tell this tale. A professional engineer working this project would have let ANY comment about the details of the work slip right on by. You seem to want a pat on the back for all this fabulous work when all thats needed is your own confidence in your own reality. No one has attacked you in any way and even though I sense that you are going to continue this slant of opinion because you have deep seated feelings for your project, you need to chill and understand that no one is criticizeing you for the results......only commenting on the techniques you employed. Like I said very early on, (which you seem to have missed) "if this works for you then its a good thing".

I'm still looking for the 'bitchy' parts........and the 80%.........

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:31 pm

I never disagreed with your girl, Dave. She's free to express whatever opinion she wants, however she wants. And I agree with her suggestion for a snare mic... just not the tactless way she presented it.

But when I commented back, in relatively the same disrespectful manner as her (she called me stupid, I called her comment bitchy... tit-for-tat), you got all huffy with me about my approach. My main protest throughout this thread is simply the way you silently allow a person to act one way and speak up when someone else acts similarly.

Your girl can act however she wants, but I'll comment back however I want. Tell her not to harsh. She can only be offended if she allows herself to be. Tell her to grow some nads and deal with it or get the hell out of the kitchen. Wink

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:44 pm

Reread my previous post. As for reining in Remy.....Shes a mod here too, and while I agree with you on the tenor of the posts, I also feel she has spent the time in the kitchen doing this stuff at a level that few of us here have done, and shes capable of dealing with stuff herself. She also deserves respect for the longevity of her time in the kitchen.

As for me replying to you in any way that resembles 'huffy'.....errr.....you dont know me very well do ya........

Any of you longtime folks wanna comment on the 'huffy'????

At least those who have seen 'huffy' from me in its true form.

I asked you civilly to take a moment and learn about those you feel have offended you before you go off and flip out.

But I see you are the sensitive type and can read anything you want into a perfectly civil worded message.

If I was being 'huffy' in any sense of the word, believe me you would know it without a doubt.

So lets play nice....I like what you've done....I'm trying very hard to like you and give you a platform to share your project with the group. I would hate to see it go downhill over something misinterpreted.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:50 pm

Just posted an updated version of The Best Part at: http://www.isound.com/old_man_johnson

I'm going to try and post a new song called Jamhiem Steamroller later tonight.

Also, if anyone wants to make friends with us on MySpace our address is: www.myspace.com/thegorgeoushussies

I found a pic I took awhile back... we saw Dream Theater do something similar when they recorded one of their recent albums. This board has been a life saver for us while we've tracked this beast. When my drummer first suggested it I thought it was going to be over kill... but after using it I'll never track another record without one.

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