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GnzlO
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Hello, this is my little problem, you all sure know about it: I just bought this m-audio controller and using reason I experiment a retardation of one second, I’m using a pc with enough ram (2gb) a processor of 2ghz, USB 2.0 and 200gb, so I wonder if might be the audio card that creates this "second" out of time (I guess it does) so I’m thinking about getting an external audio card (tascam or edirol) but I would like to know if this second out will disappear when I get this audio-card or this problem is related to something else? Thanks for your help...keep rocking. |
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EricUndead
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| GnzlO wrote: | | Hello, this is my little problem, you all sure know about it: | I have no idea
| GnzlO wrote: | | I just bought this m-audio controller and using reason I experiment a retardation of one second, |
What kind of experiment is this?
| GnzlO wrote: | | I’m using a pc with enough ram (2gb) a processor of 2ghz, USB 2.0 and 200gb, so I wonder if might be the audio card that creates this "second" out of time (I guess it does) so I’m thinking about getting an external audio card (tascam or edirol) but I would like to know if this second out will disappear when I get this audio-card or this problem is related to something else? Thanks for your help...keep rocking. |
So are you getting drop outs of audio while you are recording? |
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hueseph
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Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:28 am |
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I think we are talking about latency. Yes it should be less apparent with a better soundcard and better drivers. Legitimate software would help also. |
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GnzlO
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Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:11 am |
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yeah that's right hueseph i mean latency, that's it. thanxs for youe help dude |
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Greener
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Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:26 am |
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I have an Edirol UA-25. The direct monitoring is sweet but any kind of echo from the DAW is retarded by at least a second. I have a similar computer to yourself.
The amount of retardation depends on what you are trying to do. What are you trying to do? |
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RemyRAD
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:19 am |
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Much of the problem with utilizing the computer with these types of sound cards dictates that you must change settings of buffers differently for recording than for mixing. Smaller buffer times mean less latency, less real-time effects, less equalization, less of everything except playback latency. Even that is problematic but can be further remedied by creating a "work mix" designed for overdub sessions. This way you can reduce track count on overdub playback's, while keeping buffers lowered. You'll have less dropouts & hickups.
Once you complete all of your tracking, you can increase your buffers and start mixing. Buffers settings can be found in both the Windows operating system & software you are using. There is no magic numbers to give you since it requires experimentation for best results for each stage of the recording process. That's why I like purpose built recorders. Their latency is so low so as not to be a problem. On the order of under 16 ms or less. Which is where you need to try to get your latency by tweaking buffers. I believe this is also one of the reasons why ProTools became popular? They took care of most of this problem for you. Still not my favorite program however.
No latency. So I think bi is all right?
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GnzlO
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:33 am |
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hey thanxs for your help RemyRad, i was reading many things online about it and they explain the same , even someone told me about sound cards "sample rate", if it have high sample rate the less latency they might cause, this week i'll buy one card and write again about the results, once again, thank you mate. |
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Space
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:34 pm |
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I thought is was going to be a song. |
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GnzlO
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:44 am |
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well, everything here's ends into a song... |
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IIRs
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:44 am |
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You need to use ASIO drivers to get low latency on a PC.
The best way to do this is to buy a proper audio interface that has dedicated ASIO drivers written for it.
Failing that try asio4all which is a generic ASIO driver designed to work with consumer soundcards or on-board sound chips. It won't be as good as a proper audio interface + proper ASIO drivers (it mght not work at all depending on your hardware) but its free so worth a try. |
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GeckoMusic
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:13 pm |
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| GnzlO wrote: | | I just bought this m-audio controller and using reason I experiment a retardation ... |
What is the model of the card?
I have never had trouble with any M-Aduio products. Are you sure you have the correct drivers installed, and are selecting the "ASIO" input and outputs? |
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GnzlO
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Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:00 am |
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well latency is gone. i found this edirol UA-4FX card and it brings ASIO4all driver and zero latency as one of the new stuff, its pretty good hardware. I even read about the latency types so, i think everyone should read about it to learn more and avoid disturbs from softwares or hardwares,
regards, gnzlo. |
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hueseph
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Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:31 am |
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Most people here don't have latency problems but thanks for the thought. |
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Space
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Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:45 pm |
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That was so thoughtful!
Sorry I was retarded. |
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