Acoustic Guitar And Vocal Song - Positively Ignored

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:15 am

I'm with Gecko on this. I think you need to play with mic placement. I would try a mic as far as 24" away from the body of the guitar. It sounds really thin to me. It may just be the guitar but I have gotten passable tracks from a piece of junk that I rescued from a garbage can. Play with the distance. The guitar body needs room to breathe. You don't want the boominess of the soundhole but you still want to hear the wood.

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:23 pm

Yep. You should really try to get the sound you want up front, without any eq during tracking. You mentioned that the track sounds worse without eq. There's your problem. Use eq after only if you need to make small tweaks to get a part to sit better in the mix (or use extreme settings as special effects, I guess). Ideally, at least.

Of course, we're being kinda picky here - the track sounds good to me now - but it could be better. Wink

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:56 am

Ok I will try that headphone trick for the next one. I don't think it is the guitar its a breedlove ad-something or another (highend though.) I had the mic about 8 in. away from the 12th fret pointing 30 degrees off axis toward the neck. I will try all of the suggestions though. Thanks again!

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:16 am

punkrocker wrote:

I had the mic about 8 in. away from the 12th fret pointing 30 degrees off axis toward the neck.

The twelfth fret is on the neck. Do you mean bridge or head stock?

That is completely the opposite of what it sounded like to me. I was way off. could you post a track of the guitar dry?How does it sound dry?

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:45 pm

If it was at the 12th fret and pointing 30 deg towards the headstock, I can definitely see how you ended up with a pretty thin sound.

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:14 pm

How do you see thin sound?

Your eyes are better than mine.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:43 am

Greener wrote:

How do you see thin sound?

Your eyes are better than mine.

Funny. Good point that some people reading these threads don't know the difference between "thin" and "warm"

They are the same right? Shocked

Just kidding.

This is a pretty good glossary :
http://www.integracoustics.com/MUG/MUG/bbs/stereophile_audio-glossary.html

In this glossary they have "laid back" as an frequency term. I have always thought of it as a rhythmic term. You learn something new every day.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:07 pm

Greener wrote:

How do you see thin sound?

Your eyes are better than mine.

I said I can see *how* you could end up with thin sound. In other words, it makes sense to me that pointing the mic towards the headstock would result in a *thin* sound.

Stereophile Audio Glossary wrote:

thin Very deficient in bass. The result of severe attenuation of the range below 500Hz

Couldn't you hear what I meant in my previously typed post? Very Happy

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:55 pm

"Couldn't you hear what I meant in my previously typed post?"

comeback Laughing

[quotes self]

troll Laughing

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:07 pm

Troll or sock-puppet?

I'm a troll.

What are you?

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:55 pm

What up Bro? I like the song a lot. Good lyrics. Good Voice. The mix version sounds better with the vocals, but that guitar is killing me.
The playing is great. But the sound is to washed out. Try cloning the guitar track a few times to build some body. Give it depth.
Thats just my opinion.
LATE!

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