New Manley MU - not working!!!

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 10:10 am

Hello Sjoko,Sound Manley hater and true represenitive. Very Happy

:p

I guess they read this forum and decided to make a mockary of us all!The MU in my opinion is hard pressed for serious ridicule! Sorry you hate this company so much , but I think the Mu alone is much like H.R. Pufenstuff; most will not understand and laugh at the suposed silliness , but the Magic and imagination is there , maybey you have to catch up?!No hard feelings.Mad John
Zythum Studios"Cling and Clang are alive and well!"Freddy the Flute was designed by Davied Manley and (created in proto type model) by Raymond Scott (useing old stock world war 2 parts.)Witchiepoo still uses a Manley mikes in her control both area and Seymore is locked in the lower dungen doing work on the new Zythum box set (due in the fall of 2002.)"The present day Composer refuses to die!"
Edgar Varese - 1921

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 9:14 pm

I hate to be the one to stir this up, but John, I have to tell you, Edgar Varese is dead. :w:

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 9:33 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr> The MU in my opinion is hard pressed for serious ridicule! <hr></blockquote>
well for one it seems to toss all your low end into a blender only too give you a much too squishy bottom.
in other words I dislike what the Vari-MU does to the low-end. It seems to take the low-end tightness away from the mix.
I use a pair of TAB U73 w/Varicom.
and it sure rivals a Fairchild for it's ability to produce a very controled/tight/huge low end.
and may I say that it wasa little over half the price of a Vari-pooh Rolling Eyes

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 9:42 pm

Ohhhhhhhh Mike,What ever.You cant please everybody , but you sure can try to make them sound better! Very Happy

Cheers!Mad John
Zythum Studios"The present day Composer refuses to die!"
Edgar Varese - 1921"I wonder why that is?" - Bon Jovie 1987

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 9:54 pm

JTM-you read way too many magazines...but fail to recall how to spell the words you read. :w:

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 12:06 am

Mike I was with you for a while but.......How would you know how many of anything I read?That is awfully presumtuious.Who gives a shit how I spell?Spelling is not important, do you understand what I write?Try not to hard to differ with me on everything Mike just for the sake of a disscussion.I dont apreciate the nit picking , so back off a little!I'll discuss the MU till the cows come home , but lets stay on the topic at hand and lets try to take good advantage of what we each have to offer here ok?Mad John
Zythum Studios"The present day Composer is looseing his cool"
Who else?

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 8:43 am

well then if you'd like to talk 'bout the MU till the cows come home then do it. your response to my post was "what-ever" soI do believe the ball's in YOUR court.
I don't give a fuck how you spell.
some of your interpretations are a bit amusing. :w:

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 9:33 am

Great amusement is what I am all about!I am an entertainer , but I am no joker.The fact that I cant spell should not suprize you, since I could'nt figure out how to hook up a brand new MU. The incompitence runs in twos.I am not a tech Mike, just a musician.You may find me interesting if you asked the right qestions, rather than leave off as you have previously with bogus coments!Do you not wish to be civil?I can match any throw ya got (but that is not a challenge , just a defence!)Peace and Dreams,Mad John
Zythum Studios"The present day Composer refuses to die!"
Edgar Varese - 1921

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 11:51 am

Mike, how's about full disclosure of what Manley gear you've tried in what circumstances? I've heard Manley fans who are unhappy with what the VariMu does to the low end, so I'm not surprised you're unhappy with it. Have you tried the El-Op, though? It's hard to be clear with your occaisional mentions of specific gear how meaningful your slams on the full line are.And, yes, we know you like the TAB-Funkenwerk stuff, care to give us detailed explanations why sometime? You sometimes come off like a newbie uncritically defending whatever they've invested in, and I imagine you have good reasons for liking your gear. I'd take your endorsement more seriously if you'd give some details sometime.Bear

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 12:35 pm

Bear,That deserves a big warm hug!Now, back to the topic...........Mad John
Zythum Studios"The present day Composer refuses to die!"
Edgar Varese - 1921"Who loves you baby?" Kojak - 1975 Smile

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 3:58 pm

Hey Bear,
Sorry man, we've got to let you onto a little secret. miketholen has been secretly enlisted by our PR department to provide only negative publicity because, like, if all posts about Manley were only positive, then people really wouldn't believe them. You see, we need people like miketholen to provide reality to our unbelievable reputation. It keeps us all human and we know you guys like to deal with, like, real flawed people not just giant faceless perfect companies.All the famous and nice artists and recording engineers are always asking us for endorsements. We know they are nice because they give us all this attention, send us their discographies and glossy head shots for free, and even offer photographs of them using our gear for us to use in our ads. The problem is, I have a hard time explaining to them that we already use my picture in our ads and that has been working pretty well to sell these pretty boxes. What the real challenge has been is to find a guy like mike to do negative endorsements for us, cuz, like, usually most of the guys looking for endorsement work really like our stuff.The other thing mikey does for us is to implement a technique called reverse psychology. It's a great marketing tool and we couldn't thank him enough for the great job he has done for us. Keep those page hits coming mikey! You are doing fabulous, even better than we expected from you. Rock on guys, and don't forget that "Tubes Do Not Rule!"

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 4:18 pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2001 5:04 pm

This is quite strange , but I shall say nothing at this juncture , for I am too stunned!Somebody E-mail me with the dope!Mad John
Zythum Studios"The present day Composer refuses to die!"
Edgar Varese - 1921

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 5:00 am

A quick note to 'John Thomas'...it's EveAnna, one word, two capital letters...go figure. 
<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by miketholen:

well for one it seems to toss all your low end into a blender only too give you a much too squishy bottom.
in other words I dislike what the Vari-MU does to the low-end. It seems to take the low-end tightness away from the mix.<hr></blockquote>Yep, that's the same complaint I have with it. Mine just went back to the Manley factory, EveAnna said they have a mod that might clear that up (no pun intended)...I'm interested to hear it. <blockquote>quote:<hr>I use a pair of TAB U73 w/Varicom.<hr></blockquote>Gee, there's a surprise. Have you ever been able to follow a complete thought without the words "TAB" or "Telefunken" entering the conversation? <blockquote>quote:<hr>and it sure rivals a Fairchild for it's ability to produce a very controled/tight/huge low end.<hr></blockquote>You've never used a well set up 670 have you. The "low end" options on a 670 are 'smeared' or 'lacking'. A pair of EAR 660's will net you the result you think you might have been hearing from a 670 (BTW, I've owned over a dozen 670's over the years, I know the good ones from the not so good ones).If you think the TAB U-73's [or any of the "Brown Book" U-73's are the be-all, end-all of buss compression...then you've obviously never tried NTP 179-120's. A friend of mine (who just happens to have done some rather serious records...like the 'Living Color' albums, Bad Brains "I against I", some of Jagger's solo shit, "Creed", and a couple hundred others I can't think of at the moment) has an extra pair of NTP's. If you want to try some real compressors, give me a shout, I'll hook the two of you up directly (as in I'm not doing this to make 'dime one'...I'm doing this because my friend wants to sell some compressors, and you need something new to foam about...a win-win scenario if you ask me...)

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 8:07 am

This thread is getting really interesting now Mike Smile

And by the way EveAnna, tubes certainly do rule!!Way too much silicium crap is being used lately!

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