Influences?

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:10 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by drbam:
>Drbam,
Can you tell us more about Russ Kunkle? I love his name. David<

Kunkle was a first call studio drummer in LA for a long time. His peak was during the '70s and 80's. He was one of the players that would be contracted to do the sessions and the follow up tours. He played on most of James Taylor's records - Fire and Rain being a classic of course, and he also worked with Carole King, Jackson Browne, Linda Ronstadt, Stevie Nicks, etc. A track that really illustrates the "feel" I referred to in my earlier post is Bob Seger's "Like a Rock." To me its just amazing! Listen to where he puts the back beat in relation to the rest of the drum kit - just behind everything else but never dragging. The result is that it pulls the listener more deeply into the groove. At least that is how I experience it. Smile

drbam

He also played with Dan Fogelberg on Captured Angel.
Russ with Linda Ronstadte in 1975
:h: Treena

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:24 pm

Hi Guys Newbie here
all those drummers are great.
when I was about 22 or so (now around 42 or so)
I had the chance to see Elvin jones in a little club in Albany, little 18" bass drum and all,
quite the independence there, as I grew I favored Cobham, (I think now only for the mix on 'Birds of Fire'), I learned that beat that Bruford did on King Crimson's 'Sailor's Tale', one of my fav beats (now I thought I was Bad).
I Liked that kid with Primus, Saw the Kid with Tool - live with my son -very good player, Now I am noticing the drummer with Opeth, I guess it's time to buy that double bass pedal...
any rate thanks for having me.

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:50 pm

I'm a big fan of Jeff Porcaro. He was one of my first influences, and is still probably my biggest influence. I did like alot of the chops players when I was younger (I still like Vinnie), but Jeff's sound quality and groove were always incredible, and at any dynamic level. Talk about a backbeat groove that could drive nails through a brick wall!

For jazz drumming, I liked Buddy (How in the world could you not?), Dave Tough, Papa Joe Jones, and mostly guys from the Swing era.

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 2:02 am

Oh yeah.
DaveB,
Welcome to the table friend. Thanks for confirming my love of Bill Bruford. I wish I could go back and do mixes of the Yes songs with only him, Steve Howe and Chris Squire, allowing a great trio to emerge from the bombast. B.B. had such amazing dynamics and transitions. I understand that some of the Yes albums were done by letting the band jam out ad infinitum, then the engineers would splice together songs from all the noodling. Anybody got info?
Shane,
Porcaro. Wow. His straight/swung feels... Oughtta be a damn picture of him in the dictionary next to the word DrumGod. Huh? Whattya mean that word ain't in there yet??!! Time to start a petition.
El Doktor, David

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:18 pm

I remember wathcing Buddy Rich on Sesame Street when I was real young. That was pretty much it. I never looked back once I found out that my father was a drummer as well.

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:34 pm

two words.............kenny aronoff......right down to the kit/cymbal config

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 3:49 pm

Idiom,
I never saw Buddy on Sesame Street, but I remember his Muppet Show appearance. It's too bad (or is it?) that his most famous recordings (among musicians) are those bootleg tapes of him completely cussing out his band. I heard them a few times, but I'd love to get a copy for myself. Man, that's what I call entertainment! Smile

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 5:35 pm

shaneperc
I think I have that somewhere.. If I do I can load it into the DAW and clean it up a bit and spin off a CDr or an mp3 for you... Kurt

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:03 pm

Vinnie Vinnie Vinnie--Bonham Bonham
and Gadd, Weckl, Porcaro, Steve Ferrone, Manu Katché, Wackermann and Ian Paice.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:57 am

First off, I started playing drums in the early 90's as a pre-teen so Dave Grohl was my main inspiration. Here are some of my other personal influences. I'll limit my choices to band guys, rock esp.

Ol timers:
Bonham - obviously
Keith Moon - animated and brilliant
Mitch Mitchell - spastic
Ringo - wrote great melodies with his drums
Stevie Wonder - innervisions baby!

New guys:
Dave Grohl - listen to the new queens record
Josh Freese - talk about adaptation as a studio guy
Matt Cameron - definition of style
Zak Starkey - ringo's kid
Isaac Carpenter - up and 'commer, plays in a band called loudermilk, never miss an oppurtunity to mention this kid's name. Think Keith Moon, with the power and discipline of Grohl. Makes me jealous.

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:23 am

Wow!! I am not even a drummer, but I can't believe I haven't seen DANNY CAREY from Tool on this list yet. This guy is top notch. The Lateralus CD blew my mind.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:10 pm

yeah i'd have to say:

- Daney Carrey
was completely hooked on his drumming from the first time i heard it. I dunno what it is about it, it's raw and loud (he's fucking loud if you were to stand near his kit unmic'ed) yet he's pretty damn dynamic for that type of music. wasn't too impressed with tool's latest album - didn't seem to flow right.

- Tim Alexander:
from the old primus, not the newer stuff... Tim plays in a group called "laundry" and started singing in that as well. Their first laundry album was pretty nice, but i honestly really don't like Tim’s vocals hehe - at least it's impressive knowing he drums and sings at the same time!! but damn i used to love older primus albums like "fizzle fry", "sailing the seas of cheese". "pork soda" and "tales from a punch bowl" i can't stand though.. I can understand Tim’s excuse for leaving that band.

- Neil Peart
I got some drum tabs and absolutely love practicing that stuff - I can just barely get "tom sawyer" and "yyz" down - though not nearly as effortlessly as Neil makes it seem.

i think allot of my favs are jazz drummer who i don't remember their names but just jaw dropping. i never understood Bonham, mainly cause i don't know his music - any recommendations?

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:05 pm

by,
I don't know if Led Zeppelin would be suited to your tastes, but I can recommend certain tracks that would highlight the gentleman's talents. To put John Bonham into context- he held it down for one of the most influential rock bands of all time. It would be hard to overstate Led Zeppelin's effect on rock. They established a sound that became a touch-point for just about every act that followed, the parameters for FM hard rock. When punk happened it was a rejection of Led Zeppelin and the Led Zep sound of other "dinosaur" bands (Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull...). I refuse to even think about how many times he has been sampled for hip hop songs.
Bonham was famous for sitting behind the beat and laying down the heavies ("When The Levy Breaks"), but he also had a talent for tossing in interesting delicacies around the big, fat downbeats ("Fool in the Rain"). Frankly, if this topic is going to be tackled properly we're going to have to move it to it's own thread. It will be titled, unconfusingly, "Why John Bonham is Great".
Doc

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:54 pm

Charly Watts keeps amazing me. I also like Dennis Chambers. Lars Ulrich was legendary on the past albums of Metallica. His drumming was just soo tight. I wonder where he went wrong on saint anger hehe

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:56 pm

Stewart Copeland on the ‘Regatta de Blanc’ … Police album,.
Some of the best drumming ever.
Tasteful yet Flash.

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