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Hell, might as well get some good input before they ban my ass. Anyone care to have a go at this track?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I like the sound of this much more.

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Then you got to the "Yeah, maaaan" part at 1:25 or so.

Make the intro into a song. Seriously.

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I was gonna mention this in the last post. MT beat me to it. Ya got a whole catalog of MoTown length songs in the intros. I dont personally care, but it does take ya a moment or two to get yer thing on........

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I like this one much better also. The way you have produced your vocals is fabulous! I really like what you do there. They're really good! Better than most. I particularly liked your production value in the opening with the "sotto voce' " conversations taking place all over and in the right channel, in the background, etc.. That was cool along with all of the other conversation stuff. I think it adds a lot of interest to the song. It tells a story with sound and presents a definite image along with being intriguing.

Again here, I'm curious about how you produced the drums? Where you limited with your inputs here? While I found them to have much better placement, more punch, more life, more snap, I'd love to hear just a little more resonance from the snare drum or perhaps a little short inverse reverb to spread it out more, in stereo and to simulate the resonance, if that's possible with your current system? The cymbals (overheads) are really the only high frequency sources in the music. I think you could bring them up a bit? I think a little more "splashy" would be nice? You might have better tweeters than I do? Because, I found the overheads a little low, it did not seem to provide the full stereo spread that most stereo overheads provide. Did you use a single overhead? Or stereo pair? Perhaps you may have been limited with inputs during your tracking? Tell me more?

Now, that's a solid sounding bass line! Right on! That's what I'm talking about.

I'd love to know how differently you approached this song in comparison to the other 2 examples earlier? It certainly doesn't sound to me like they were mixed at the same time but there are elements of similarity? But obviously, my perceptions have been flawed lately as everybody has let me know this.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey, I seem to get confilicting thoughts on my tendancy to have long intros and long songs in general. One guy in particular told me I could cut about 8 bars off the intro to "Dusk". Guess its just a matter of taste.

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Again here, I'm curious about how you produced the drums? Where you limited with your inputs here? While I found them to have much better placement, more punch, more life, more snap, I'd love to hear just a little more resonance from the snare drum or perhaps a little short inverse reverb to spread it out more, in stereo and to simulate the resonance, if that's possible with your current system? The cymbals (overheads) are really the only high frequency sources in the music. I think you could bring them up a bit? I think a little more "splashy" would be nice? You might have better tweeters than I do? Because, I found the overheads a little low, it did not seem to provide the full stereo spread that most stereo overheads provide. Did you use a single overhead? Or stereo pair? Perhaps you may have been limited with inputs during your tracking? Tell me more?


Drums are, unfortunately, programmed. On top of that, I dont have the resources to use the overhead samples........so its all close mic samples which I then have to try and use reverb on. I only have four tracks to use for the drums, which are separated out into bass drum, snare, toms, and cymbals. I cant use any outboard effects or pre's cause I dont have the ability to do that either. The snare is the bane of my existance. I do NOT know how to deal with it. It always sound so thin and frail, so, I end up slapping reverb on them and compressing them cause I dont know what else to do. But you know what, now that i think about it. This drumkit might actually have been a different set than used on the other tracks. Ill have to check on that.

As far as how I approached it different. Its all exactly the same chain-wise, so I guess I just got lucky? Its like a crapshoot unfortunately. Some just seem to turn out better than others. I feel like im kinda hitting a wall here with the lack of any good acoustic properties of my living room. Plus, its hard to hear the snare with my fiance constantly yelling about tripping over mic stands and guitar chords constantly. But I love her. Embarassed

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