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keano
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:56 pm |
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I have actually heard the SMB7 is a poor mans U47 is this true?
I know the Soundelux E47 is a great reproduction but it is $4K, Peluso 22 47 which is $1400-1900 depending on tube or solid state. |
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moonbaby
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:45 pm |
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Yeah, the SM7b is a "poor man's U47"...ssssshhh, don't tell everyone,they'll want one themselves...
My "poor man's U47" is the A-T 4047... |
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keano
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:04 pm |
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AT 4047 hmmm never thought of that. |
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Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:43 am |
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FET or tube?
None of the mics which have purported similarities to a U47 is going to be considered a "poor mans' mic".
Your post indicating the Soundelux is proof of that.
I also LOVE the 4047 and though I dont think it has the Neumann 'sheen' it is a very very usable tool and with the right preamp is truly a remarkable sounding mic and not just for the price....Try one on a GT ViPre. |
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:51 am |
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Take a look at the Peluso 2247SE (same as the 2247LE with the Red American tube instead of the Telefunken tube). It's a very impressive recreation of the U47 and comes with a flight case, 7 conductor cable, power supply, shock mount and wooden case.
You can check it out at our website. Click on Peluso on the front page and choose 2247LE (the SE is what the menu defaults to in the pricing and is the one I recommend every day). We've even got a nice movie about it.
If you are looking for the recreation of the "studio U47" that has been famous in recording studios for so many years you want the SE/LE not the short body. The short body 47 is a recreation of the U47 that the German Radio stations used for broadcast purposes and is great for voiceovers but it is not nearly the same thing as the real deal 2247SE.
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:03 am |
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Mic debates aside, what's the reason you're looking for a 47? Have you used one before and liked it, thus desire to buy a similar mic?
If I had $10K to spend on mics (and I do from time to time), I wouldn't even consider a 47 or a clone. Considering that there are at least 100 other mics on the planet that I could buy, would do a wonderful job and cost a mere fraction of the cost of a 47 or clone....
For example...if I had $10k and a project studio or even "low-end" to mid-level commercial studio focusing on rock, country, rap, etc....here would be my list of mics:
5 SM 57s ($500)
2 SM 58s ($200)
EV RE20 ($400)
2 Sennheiser MD421s ($650)
Soundelux U195 ($1100)
Blue Bluebird (just found it and love it!) ($350)
2 Schoeps CMC6 MK4 -OR- Sennheiser MKH 40 ($2500)
AT 4047 ($400)
AT 4033 ($400)
Neumann M147 ($1800)
Royer 121 ($1200)
Beyer M160 ($600)
and I'd spend the remaining few bucks on some accessories (boom arms, pop screens, etc.) |
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keano
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:42 pm |
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Thanks Joshua. I definitely have the AT 4047 on my list, and Cucco a few of those I have already and are also on my list.
Reason I like the U47 is that the recordings is that alot of the artists I like vocally and style wise with a similar voice as mine use this. that got me interested. I initially without considering a U47 type mic wanted that big large up front sound. In your face. turns out this was it. |
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:50 pm |
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| keano wrote: | | Reason I like the U47 is that the recordings is that alot of the artists I like vocally and style wise with a similar voice as mine use this. that got me interested. I initially without considering a U47 type mic wanted that big large up front sound. In your face. turns out this was it. |
Bear in mind...the u47 will not get you a big, up front and in your face sound.
Only a u47 in a good room through good pres with good head room with a good vocalist will get you that sound.
Of course, if you have all of those other variables, a SM57 will get you a big, up front and in your face sound too.
I guess my point is -
It's fun to dream and have a wish list of expensive mics. However, it's also good to be realistic and realize that you can get EXACTLY the sound you're looking for with a $350 mic, a good preamp, a good room and proper gain staging.
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keano
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:52 pm |
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cucco fair enough good point. $350 is wonderful. what do you recommend for up front in your face large tone. SM7B? |
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BobRogers
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:58 pm |
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Keano-
If you have been reading recent posts you know that Jeremy has fallen hard for his new Bluebird. Time will tell whether this infatuation will deepen into a long lasting relationship or dash his hopes and leave him, older, wiser, but with a hint of bitterness. Say what you will about recording.org, we don't lack for drama.
I'm definitely gonna check out the Bluebird though. |
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:00 pm |
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I love the sm7b for a an upfront male voice. I thin it sounds the best on me when i am singing rock as well. with a 4040 being much better when i sing in a higher register, like jack white.
the sm7 is hard to not make sound good. plus it works really well on amps. |
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Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:09 pm |
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Studio projects is a company that make great mics.
They have one called C1, they say it performs just like the expensive u87,
Read the reviews and you'll see.
C1 is $299
Neumman U87 is $ Just to much to post |
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lesspaul
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Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:19 pm |
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I have just 4 mics in my Studio
SM57
Audiotechnia 40/33
AKG C3000
AKG u800
For now I can get great sond thanks to my Preamp ART Pro
I even mic my drum set and get a full STEREO IMAGE.
All four for less than $1000 |
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Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:10 pm |
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Someone should call Les Paul and tell them that lesspaul has stolen his name and used it attract attention on this forum to guide people to his crappy website filled with content made by other people.
Not to hijack this thread, but really, you are NOT Les Paul, and your website is filled with a whole bunch of other people's content.
I really can't take your recommendations seriously when you've so obviously tried to dupe me twice in your only two posts here.
And why would a drummer call himself lesspaul?
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Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:24 pm |
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