Looking for a mixing 'course'

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:45 am

Hello All,

I have been creating mixes on my DAW for the last few years, and would consider my abilities/experience at maybe a 3 out of 10. I've no training and feel as though I'm kind of operating in a vacuum here.

I started out with the "audio pro home recording course" with Bill Gibson, and it certainly got me going, but I'm ready to move past that level.

Quitting my job and taking serious engineering/mixing/mastering courses would be great, but is not in the cards for me.

So is there something like a DVD series out there that has a heavy emphasis on mixing, with some recording and mastering, to take my final products to the next level? (I checked out the 'mix it like a record' series($150), but I don't know if it's any good, and what else is out there.)

Thanks folks

TTFN
Keith

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:01 am

http://www.musicridge.com/sound_recording.htm

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:17 am

Thanks Jerry,

I assume that on that page you mean 'the art of mixing?'

Any others out there. I think I'm looking for something more extensive, but maybe there's more information in that video than I'm giving credit for.

Thanks
Keith

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:02 pm

Is that the Mixing DVD i'm thinking of with all the funky coloured cubes and bubbles. I'm surprised it doesn't come with a bag of dope.

We had 2 great texts in Recording school:

1. http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Recording-Techniques-David-Miles/dp/0240804562 3 bucks is a wicked price

2. http://musicbooksplus.com/bassistant-engineers-handbookb-p-193.html

Here's a link to the course I took:

http://www.nscc.ca/Learning_Programs/Programs/PlanDescr.aspx?prg=SOUN&pln=RECORDARTS

they just built a brand new studio. They take 20-25 students a year and the cost is around $10,000 CDN. The teachers are great. Is one of the few recording schools that is not a privately run company. Its part of a brand new community college for 5000 people.

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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:21 pm

Halifaxsoundguy wrote:

Is that the Mixing DVD i'm thinking of with all the funky coloured cubes and bubbles. I'm surprised it doesn't come with a bag of dope.

Dont tell Remy Laughing

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:59 pm

I'm sorry. I didn't quite get that. I was in a purple haze looking out my windowpane when I tripped over the blotter on the way to the bathroom to fech a pail of water. Unfortunately, I fell down and broke my Crown. I got up because I didn't want to be a Thai stick, in the mud.

With six you get egg roll
Ms. Remy Ann David

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:19 pm

Whoa, straying from topic.

focus...focus...

er...thanks...Remy.

Is there good mix information to be had over at that 'thai stick in the mud' place, or am I better off buying the DVD's available at the egg roll site? he he he

Thanks Halifax Man,

But I wonder if a textbook(ie, words on a page) works as well as a CD or DVD where one can hear actual examples of mixes? You know, that whole thing about 'writing about music being like dancing about architecture?'

Your links and my wanderings led me here, Anybody have an opinion on this one?

http://musicbooksplus.com/bmixing-with-pros-dvdb-p-8117.html?osCsid=c33d1e0b207ff898203c7e418c295c41

Taa
Keith

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:05 pm

Well because we're living in the 21st-century, after all, I'd think, if you got the money, go for the DVDs. I've never really trained with anybody else but I wouldn't mind sitting in on somebody else's sessions. It was pretty cool sitting in on a few when I was at Media Sound in NYC as a maintenance Tech. Especially when an A 2 (assistant engineer) didn't show or, problems with a multitrack machine took me into the control room. I just learned by listening and doing. The problem is, is that it's difficult to teach people how to listen. I know so many engineers that are inarticulate or simply, don't want you to know how they do it. A good friend of mine wouldn't even give me his reverb patch for my PCM 70. Go figure? I taught him how to do video. It's not like I'm going to take his job. He's got plenty of gold records and a platinum or two? And I don't think it was just the reverb patch?

You put the lime in the coconut
Ms. Remy Ann David

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:14 pm

RemyRAD wrote:

I'm sorry. I didn't quite get that. I was in a purple haze looking out my windowpane when I tripped over the blotter on the way to the bathroom to fech a pail of water. Unfortunately, I fell down and broke my Crown. I got up because I didn't want to be a Thai stick, in the mud.

With six you get egg roll
Ms. Remy Ann David

Brilliant!!!! Laughing

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:05 am

Any feedback on those two?

http://www.kiqproductions.com/index.html

http://www.moultonlabs.com/full/product02/

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:26 pm

Dave Moulton is one of the most knowledgeable people I've ever met. His books and CD's have helped me, and I'm sure many, many more considerably - definitely worth the money.

Fair warning, find another place other than directly from KIQ to get them. They take forever, and at times you might think they've lost or forgotten your order.

If you have a few weeks' vacation time, there's a place in Florida that uses Moulton's Golden Ears CD's in part of their teachings. Seems pretty cool. Anyone here taken it?

http://www.themixingworkshop.com/

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:41 pm

Not to boast or any thing, but I have Kevin Doyle teaching me how to mix. I can not tell you how luck I am to be able to have one of the best mixers in the world teaching me the ropes.
He is the reason I want to pursue mixing as a career.

I dont think a book or DVD could ever come close to the experience of being behind a board with a professional.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:01 pm

TheFraz wrote:

I have Kevin Doyle teaching me how to mix.

I'm impressed. Hats off.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:32 pm

TheFraz wrote:

Not to boast or any thing, but I have Kevin Doyle teaching me how to mix. I can not tell you how luck I am to be able to have one of the best mixers in the world teaching me the ropes.
He is the reason I want to pursue mixing as a career.

I dont think a book or DVD could ever come close to the experience of being behind a board with a professional.

Hey ! Can I come over and hang out with you guys??

Very Happy

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:57 pm

More then welcome to try to get into MIA, the program I am in.

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