Panning guitars in heavy metal

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:25 pm

I'm just doing some very basic recordings for some joke songs but i was wondering how when I'm listening to pro recordings the same guitar seems to come from wide both sides as opposed to the center. I don't know how this is achieved because when I double my guitar track and pan it hard left/right, all it does technically is amp up the sound on each side and it still sounds like it's coming though the center. Can anyone tell me how to achieve the hard left and right sound without it just boosting left/right volume which still sounds like its coming straight up the middle? Thanks!

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:52 pm

If your left and right tracks are exact copies of the same thing, then you can take one and shift it in time a bit (say 10 ms, feel free to experiment with different amounts). That should open up the sound but it will still sound like one performance.
-Mark

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:16 pm

What makes you think it's a single guitar track? Where did it say this is a single guitar panned left & right? I mean, if you are a heavy metal group, what are you going to do with those extra 16 tracks you don't need to record on? Plus, I think they have a few more microphones and some acoustics to work with. So, put the guitar amplifier in the living room with a microphone. Take another microphone and put it upstairs. Take another microphone and put it down stairs. Then you'll have something that's more than mono.

Mono EE mono
Ms. Remy Ann David

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:06 pm

Alright thanks for the help! Ill experiment with the slight track shift and with different acoustics to see what sounds best.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:49 pm

let us know how it turns out!

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:41 pm

A great trick when you have a bunch of tracks is to use more than one amp in more than one acoustic environment.

We used to throw the main amp out in the big room and then another entirely diffent amp in the vocal booth and one in the laundry room. You should hear a Marshall with a washer and a dryer on 11.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:52 pm

Yes, and in the bathroom!

Gnarly, dude!

Bath and Laundry, two of my favorite iso booths!

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:28 pm

Well since this is just a joke song for this one preppy girl to try to scream to, I didn't experiment around that much. All I really tried is the slight delay which seemed to work. As far as all around mixing, this is my first time ever mixing a recording so any feedback would be great! http://media.putfile.com/Natalies-Song

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:44 pm

I gotta pinch myself - I've lurked here long enough to really pay attention when Remy, Davedog, or bent (and others) post. But my proposal was <i>easier</i>, and got the result aspguitar wanted! Who wants to lug all those extra amps? Very Happy

Don't worry, I won't let it go to my head... Wink

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:32 pm

Dude...thats why we all got 'seconds........'

Lug wha....?

Yeah....set it there....get me some coffee, K? Okay, get one for the Artist too..........

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:34 pm

Cream? Sugar? Laughing

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:34 pm

Quote:

Well since this is just a joke song for this one preppy girl to try to scream to,

Are you with Hollywood Records?

I hear they're looking for a replacement for Ms. Lohan!

Laughing

(Oops, I guess I shouldn't crap where I eat?)

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:38 pm

Quote:

my proposal was easier, and got the result aspguitar wanted!

Congratulations are in order.

Thumbs Up

Now... Name the technique.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:04 pm

Quote:

Now... Name the technique.

Ohboy! [puts on thinking cap]

...the "Electric Slide"? Nope, already taken.

...how about the "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique"? Nope, taken, too (and not really relevant I guess, but it sounds cool).

Maybe the "Virtual Bathroom"?

I'll sleep on it...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:23 pm

You sleep on it, I'll drink to it.

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