Let's Lower The price of Gas!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:07 pm

Pass this on to all your buddies in the lower 48 and wherever:

THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.30 PER GALLON.

This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this PLEASE.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!

I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can Really work.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.

If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.

If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 30 people.If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) .. and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.
If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!

(If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am . So trust me on this one.)

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. ;I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

Keep it going

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:31 pm

I think gasoline should be higher if anything. It is cheap gas above all else that has caused us to be drowning in wealth, dying of fat, stupefied by commerce, and rendered subhuman by arrogantly designed vehicles. We need a good straightening out and we're going to get it.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:58 pm

Hilary wrote:

caused us to be drowning in wealth, dying of fat, stupefied by commerce, and rendered subhuman by arrogantly designed vehicles.

You get fat because you it unhealthy food and don't exercise. Not because you just saved $20 filling up. You buy suburban because you have a huge family and there is not much public transport at least in salt lake city. And you get stupefied by commerce because you have extra money? that is stupid.

But I remember when I came to America 3.5 years ago, I did not have to plan gas in my budget. And even though I make twice as much money than back in 2004 It still affects me.

I am sending this to 10 of my friends.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:58 am

skyy38 wrote:

THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

No it can't.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:13 am

There's actually a little bit more to it than the snopes article...

Congress actually sets the formula for a minimum, nominal price. This was done to level the playing field for the domestic producers. The larger companies importing cheap foreign oil were undercutting the domestic companies. I believe this was inacted back in the 40's. There have been several updates to the formula, but it's still in place.

You want cheaper gas?

Write your congressman and stop driving so much.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:04 am

This won't work, because once again it assumes that the bad guys here are the oil companies, and that they're just raising prices to increase profits. Which isn't the case.

The oil companies have to buy oil from the likes of OPEC. OPEC is not increasing production in order to increase supply. However, demand is going up worldwide as more nations become industrialized and require oil. Oil is a commodity, and the price per barrel is based on how much companies are willing to bid to pay for those barrels. So demand is going up, the amount companies are bidding is going up, because the supply isn't going up.

So the oil companies pay more per barrel, their cost overhead is increased. So they have to raise the price of gas per gallon in order to maintain operating expenses. They make profits in the billions because that is what businesses do. They make profit.

"Well, by golly, they should purposefully take a hit to their profits so that our gas prices aren't so high!" you might say. "How dare they profit so heavily while we're feeling it so hard in our paycheck!" you might say. This assumes villainy on the oil companies. However it simply isn't realistic. Publically traded companies put people in charge, whose job it is is to maximize profit and the price of shares. If they decide to purposefully cut profits, they lose their jobs and are replaced by someone who will maximize profits. And it is neither evil nor nefarious for a company to try to maximize profits, because nobody knows what the future holds. Profits you make today are what you spend to run your business tomorrow, and if something catastrophic happens and you don't have much in the bank? Yer done. Business is what it is.
And Oil, because it is a commodity is even harder to forcast, because the price per barrel changes almost every day, and therefore the bidding prices change every day. They can't just budget a certain amount of money per quarter to spend on barrels, as the price is constantly evolving.

So beware the next time a politician on either side of the isle talks about taxing oil company profits. That is falling into the class warfare trap that assumes that just because these guys are profiting, that they're evil. If the government taxes up to 50% of oil company profits, all the oil companies are going to do, in order to maintain operating procedures, is raise the price per gallon again. They will pass this cost onto the consumer, because they have to.

The real way to fix this problem is to increase supply. If OPEC won't, then we must drill our OWN oil, that we haven't touched in 30 years because of environmental concerns. However those environmental concerns have ignored the advances of technology over those same 30 years that make oil drilling and refining and transport far safer and cleaner than in the days of the Exxon Valdeez. Increase supply, so that the price per barrel comes down. Then the price per gallon will come down.
Then you give tax INCENTIVES to oil companies to research and develop new energy technologies for the future, when oil really DOES run out. Why? Because even the oil companies have to realize that one day, oil will run out. And they better have something else in place when that day comes, in order to what? Stay in business.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:49 pm

Gas prices aren't likely to go down. We should ditch it altogether in favor of cleaner, potentially cheaper fuels.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:57 pm

Sure, but the entire WORLD uses oil. It simply isn't realistic to just drop it and use something else.
Sure, we can develop cleaner fuels---but until they are as efficient and as cheap or cheaper than oil, nothing is going to take hold. And then it'll take another 15 years AT LEAST for the rest of the world to get with it as well.

Meaning until that point, we have to use oil. So how do we deal with that reality in the meantime? The demand is still here, so we have to increase supply to meet it.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:52 am

I live next to a BP refinery that produces fuel yet my town has one of the highest fuel prices around! Currently £1.05 per litre.

Anyways... what has this got to do with Pro Sound?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:11 pm

OPEC you say? Who do you think OPEC is? Think there might be American companies involved with that group?

This is an old war thats being waged. Because of The American dream reaching out into the rest of the world, the demand has increased.

So has the ability of the predominately Arab controlled OPEC to wage war economically on whoever they see fit to do so.

The answer IS WITHOUT A DOUBT to become completely independant of anyone elses oil. And we need to produce more energy efficient automobiles and create an alternative power source for industry.

The technology for these things has been around for many many years and the greed of some people have effectively blocked any knowledge or at least any developement of these resources.

Until we are faced with the total extinction of our way of life, we seem to only want to bury our heads or only complain about the issues.

The leadership of this country has taken a blind eye to these problems for thirty years or more. Obviously not wanting to bite the hand that feeds it.

Of course the ramafications of such a drastic change in Americas stance on this would cause a huge upheaval in the world . Its not something lightly or easily accomplished, but the truth is the oil reserve has reached its peak. We are on the other side of the ability to effectively produce more. But without this, we are all going to be very poor, or looking at alternative transportation as an alternative.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:56 pm

... And to answer the question about what this has to do with Pro sound...
The link there is Plastic. It's made from oil.
Things made of plastic would be stuff, like CD's, computers, tape products. And then of course the fuel to transport all that stuff to your studio.
Which means that you either raise your rates or eat the oil.

maybe we need to take another look at that Soylent Green formula.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:24 pm

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the truth is the oil reserve has reached its peak.

I've been waiting for someone to say that, glad to see it was DD!

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Enjoy!

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