Mix for master - Crtitque??

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:43 am

Hey, this is my first post on what loosk like an awesome forum!

I'm getting to the end of recording and mixing our EP and i'd really like some feedback before the mixes go out to mastering.

Its melodic metal, and is mixed with headroom. The gang chants need sorting out and the guitar leads are beign re-amp'd at the weekend

Anything you can hear in your speakers/phones that i can't in mine? Anything I need to be aware of with the mix to make it easier for a better master? (hope that makes sense, my brain is fried!)

http://www.whisperintheriot.com/wip/just_a_lie_27808.mp3

I'm using Pro Tools MPowered (nooob with it still) delta 44 Omni, Tannoy reveal 5a, beyer dynamic DT150

We recorded it all ourself so any tips/advice is welcome!

Thanks!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:06 am

See, this is why recording studios are disappearing. That track sounds good.

On the "gang chant" I would pull back on the reverb, and chorus. Increase the pre-delay so the transients don't get lost. Boost the sibilance so we can understand what is being said. Maybe the presence. Warp the audio to align some of the key words to make them more intelligible if necessary.

The guitar sounds like it could use some more EQ work. It seems to be burring the bass, and the lead vocal at times. Dipping the lows and mids may be a place to start. Maybe even a little ducking would help.

That's what I would try. I might tweak it listen, then say "gee... what was I thinking?"

The drums sound great!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:14 am

Hey man, that sounds good.
The one thing that comes to mind is that the lead and BG vox seem to sit a little more on top of the mix rather than in it. Almost like the singing is being done to a track rather than with a band.
Definitely bring up that solo too...sounds like a good one.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:02 am

That was cool, reminds me of Sevendust.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:13 am

i wish i could hear some more bottom end for power!

and the guitar lead should be almost as loud as the vocals... right around there... because thats the main part of that particular part of the song... epople are gonna wanna hear it!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:48 am

wow you guys rock, shoot me a pm when you are done with this, i want a copy haha Smile

its like killswitch engage a bit, which i just happened to have been listening too right before i turned this on lol.

care to share how you tracked everything? I love the sound.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:12 pm

Yeah, me likey likey alot. I agree on the Sevendust comment. I'd really like some insight on the recording process here.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:29 pm

woah, thanks a lot for the feedback!

I'm gonna try and google what geckomusic said and work on that, aswell as havign a look at the vox and the bottom end - so THANKS!

recording process geekfest in a nutshell:

Guitars were a combination of a dual rectifier, H&K tri-amp MkII played through a VHT slanted 4x12 (V30's) recorded with a single SM57. There are 4 rythm tracks in all - combination of an Epiphone Zakk Wylde Les paul and a Jackson DKMG both loaded with EMG's.

Drums we did in a studio we hired for an all nighter, usual drum mic setup, can be specific if needs be - All Acoustic no triggers

Bass - Bass collection 4 strings through harkte Amp and Cabs, 1 mic, 1 DI

Vox - Audio Technica 4033 through an Alesis 3630 i blagged of a mate into my Delta 44.

The band is now in my Sig if anyone wanst to check us out Smile

Tour announced soon!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:56 pm

how did you mic the cabinet? did you listen for a sweet spot or just kinda throw it up lol. working on guitars for my band and looking to get a nice heavy sound.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:47 pm

if i remember rightly it was just to the right of the cone center (around the join) and about an inch away - but spend time recording different mic placements and do diagrams and stuff to help you remember. We also built a tent out of bits of carpet and duvets we had lying around to enclose the sound. there are pics somewhere if you want them

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:59 pm

You have to apply your sig to each post...

Be forth coming with the info, that drummer is tight. I wanna know who I'm listening to. Razz

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:38 am

oh yeah - sorry Smile

thanks again for all the comments gentlemen

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:39 pm

yeah id love to see pics

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:38 am

cool, we'll we're all but done now, mastering is begin doen on monday so once its out of my hands i'll be working on the recording blog for myspace, that'll contain pics.

I'll let you know

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:43 pm

Use a bracket, [a href=], not html.

Look next to your signature box on the profile page...it states:

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BBCode is what you have to do Wink

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