Dynaudio BM6A vs BM15A

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:43 pm

I own a pair of Mackie HR824s and after being part of that recent huge thread on the Mackies that went on forever, I've decided to sell them and buy a pair of Dynaudio's.

Does anyone have any opinions on the BM6A's vs BM15A's?

I'm talking about accuracy in the low end and overall sonic quality, etc, as was discussed in the above mentioned thread.

All opinions are welcomed.

Thanks.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:23 am

I just traded my 15bs for a set of bm6as and just love :h: them.I agree the 15bs were a bit powdery in the bottom end .But I'll bet you'll wonder how you ever went so long without the bm6s .I no I did!

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 8:58 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Macaroni:
I've decided to sell them and buy a pair of Dynaudio's.

Ditto.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 9:07 am

Hi Macaroni !

I too am an owner of HR824's (among other speakers) and some time ago I also had the similar idea - to switch my HR824's for BM15's, cause I was soooo impressed how BM15's sounded when I tested them in a local music gear store... but, after a long time of working with a huge array of different nearfields (including all genelecs, most tannoys, jbl's, event's, & dynaudio BM6a as well) I concluded that the mixes I did on HR824's where the most accurate and translated best of them all, esspecially in the bottom end... BM6's & BM15 are definitely impressive sounding speakers (as all dynaudio speakers are Smile

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 10:07 am

Hey Hypo...

I really like the Mackies too, but after participating in that mondo thread (did you read it?) a while back, I've decided to change.

Many very experienced and expert contributors explained in detail about the weaknesses of the Mackies in the low end. Not that the low end is weak, but rather not accurate.

As you said the Dynaudios were too nice, many experts felt that the Mackies were also too nice and not as accurate as one would want.

Anyway, I don't want to rehash things again. After much research, I'm convinced the BM6As will be an improvement, so I'm ready to move up/over.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback.

I've got an almost new set in my sights, so I'm hoping to bag them soon.

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:50 am

I worked, owned and still own all kind of monitors NS10, EVENT20/20, GENELEC 1031, TANOY REVEAL, JBL4206 and some speakers designed and built by myself but the monitors I like the most are the DYNAUDIO BM6A. They sound great and it is a pleasure to work on them. I worked for more than a year on GENELEC 1031 and it was a strange period. I knew GENELEC is a big name in the monitor busines and thought there is something wrong with me because I didn't liked them.
I bought last year a pair of BM6A and since then I'm happy.
I would also mention that I record classical music not only modern things. The acoustic instrument's sounds are reproduced natural [close to the real instruments].

chrissugar

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:23 am

how much for the dynaudio bm6 and bm15?
Thanks
what is their page? I want toupgrade from Monitor Ones..

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:17 am

Here's the link to Dynaudio...

http://www.dynaudioacoustics.com/

BM6A - $2,000 US retail. I found a place that will sell them for $1,500 cash, $1,530 with credit card.

BM15A - $3,000 US retail (I think).

All the research I've done has lead clearly and directly to the BM6A.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:09 am

Ron !Your gonna love these speakers {bm6as}I spent half the night listening to my favorite cds.I was hearing things like never before .I was as sceptical as anyone, but Ron good choice! Please give us your review and keep us updated ,I think weve really started a dynaudio revolution here !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tu:

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:38 am

BM6a's all the way!! I've not heard the 15's, but I also can't see spending more than $1500 for a pair of monitors for a home studio. Had mine about a month and love the hell out of them. You should be able to get them for $1500. I know a great place if you want to send a PM I will give you the address and phone number. Good luck.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 5:22 pm

I think the BM15As would be a bit to much for my home studio, and they're more expensive too.

I'm waiting for a friend who may be able to get me a special deal... cost + 10%. We'll see.

I've also been watching eBay for a set of used ones, but there aren't many. I'm kicking myself because a few weeks ago before I made the decision to switch, a guy here in the LA area sold a complete surround setup... 5 BM6As & the sub woofer for $2,500!!! He said he only used them to mix 2 movie projects, so they were practically brand new. I don't need surround yet, so I could have sold the others off and made back most of the money. D'oh!

Anyway, I'll let you know when I get them and how they compare to the Mackies. I'm excited!

Hey Logic Lover, I'm a Canadian too - from Hamilton, Ont - and my sister lives in White Rock BC. I also use Logic Audio Platinum 6.0!!!

Thanks for everyone's input. Much appreciated.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:18 pm

Although I use the mighty Yamaha NS1000's, I will cast a vote for dynaudio as well.

As a speaker designer, I exclusively used dynaudio components in all my custom work.

The 17W75 and the D28 were the drivers of choice and using a 6dB /Octave crossover, doing phase alignment and finding the proper driver spacing, that set-up freaked people out. I was more extensive in my crossover scheme than what dynaudio sent me to tweak on.

I then upgraded all my work to the T-330D esotar tweeters. The actual cost of those tweeters in 1986 was 500 per pair. This is the same tweeter used in the eggeston loudspeakers. All of the serious 10 thousand and up speakers used dynaudio components in some form in their speakers. Dynaudio was always a "head" ahead which was their slogan back then.

Being familiar with aperiodic dampning, aerodynamic baskets, huge 3 inch voive coils on 5 inch drivers and pluse ratings to 2000 watts of power, dynaudio driver were the designers staple in the high end. I am happy this tradition has carried over to professional monitors as well. Dynaudio drivers are not quite as eff. as some other drivers out there but one thing about them, they behave. You can get what you need from them.

Having said all of this, I had a pair of the dynaudio Consequence speakers for review a number of years ago. Setup was a bitch because they were a 6 way line array. Once you did get them properly positioned though, they were worth the 20+ thousand they cost. KEF (kent engineering foundry) also had some monster monitors sporting 1200 watts of internal 4 way amplification that was serious as well.

I never cared for the Wilson /Watt/Puppies which was another staple. Even though they used some dynaudio drivers and a focal tweeter, they seemed too "congested" and having mixed a song on the BBSM 10 Westlakes and knowing all the notes, whole patterns of lowest freqencies were starved back on the wilsons. Not once, but in 4 different rooms I heard them in. Could have been the Krell monoblocks that caused this with their unusually high dampning factor but then again, Wilson sold hundreds of this 5 digit speaker system and really, if it were not for dynaudio, they would have never been made.

In 1998, dynaudio made a decision to discontinue supply parts to hobbiest and rogue (like me) speaker designers. I had a design that I not only marketed but spent years developing. I had to look long and hard to find anything I considered as good for the DIY builder but settled on Scan Speak components. Skaaning is the grand daddy of dynaudio and Scan speak components are of his design. Morel acoustics (owned by Mikiel Shabani of Israel) is under liscence to produce dynaudio clones. Very very close to dynaudio components for the do it yourselfer. The top of the absolute line of components are the signature line from Skaaning.

Ejvind Skaaning has a driver called the SK300-304

680.00 for one 12 inch woofer. The 17cm unit (7") the SK 170-308 that I love building around is now 400.00 my cost plus shipping) for one 7" woofer.

Dynaudio speaks for themselves but having built many speaker systems from the entire inventory of Scan Speak, Skaaning and Dynaudio makes you appreciate what the Danes Do.

If I did not have the NS1000's, I certainly would build using Skaaning components. That is a given. The speaker I am going to build as an affordable monitor will use the Morel tweeter though...close!

Not trying to burst any bubbles but the 17W75 in the BM6 cost 114 dollars. The 28MM tweeter is about 80.00. Add 100 for crossover components and now you see the reason Dynaudio cut itself off to people like me that can build better for less. So you have (cost to build with enclosure) about a 380 dollars each speaker selling retail for 1000.00 This actually in loudspeaker manufacturing is a low markup. Manufacture to retail in loudspeakers is usually cost X5. You are paying for quality guts here. (mackie HD824 woofer is about 24 dollars manufacture cost)

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:09 pm

just that cheap? Man, mackie guys shall be getting really riiiiiiiiiiiiiiich!!!!!
LOL

I will tr to look for these Dynaudio, but I really wanted the AADAMS.
Bill, which model do you recommend?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 10:09 am

Hi Alecio...

Here's a review that includes the Adams & BM6As & a few others...

http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_sound_judgment/

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 10:16 pm

Thanks Macaroni! BM15 seem to be midfiel/nearfield.
will look at your review now!

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