Mackie VLZ PRO Series Mixers versus, well, every other M

[sserendipity]

Could someone point out what exactly is wrong with this article?

Mackie Pre Amp Shootout

[ July 22, 2003, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: Kurt Foster ]

[Rod Gervais]

Hell - we had a whole thread bout this - do you mean besides the fact that it's an advertisement - one heck of a PR thingy they got going.....

Rod

[RecorderMan]

Originally posted by Jonathan El-Bizri:
Could someone point out what exactly is wrong with this article?

Mackie Pre Amp Shootout

Who cares.....
A good 1073 beats all of them...and yet I had to record drums on a ringo record in a small room with four 1073's and a Mackie 32x8...anything is possible...but manufacurer supported "shoot-outs" will always give the manufacturer a good result...
...so use a mackie if you have too...you won't go to jail for it, and there's nothing wrong...but a formula one will always beat a suped up mustang pon the track.

[ July 22, 2003, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: Kurt Foster ]

[Kurt Foster]

Mackie ads are always crack me up. Most of the time there ‘s a lot of humor intentionally incorporated in them. I have never been able to get sound that I was satisfied with using Mackie pres but I also have to say I haven’t used the XDR PRO versions.. I have a pair of the 9098’s that are mentioned here and I find them also to be unremarkable. Too vanilla neutral for my taste. As far as a neutral mic pre, I prefer the Millennia HV 3 to either a Mackie or the 9098 pres. But I am using a U87 a solid state mic and not an M 149 which is tube.

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Nope never used it! Never heard it! I don't know nothin' about it.. It could be the best thing since sliced bacon! (really!) :D

[vinniesrs]

I don't mind my mackie pre's. They are unremarkable, but not terrible. The eq's are terrible. The crosstalk is terrible. Signal to noise? Blah. Blah Blah. Rating of one to ten?: Blah.

What I can say about mackie is:
You can record sounds with a mackie board.
You can play souns back on a mackie board.
It will sound good(not GREAT)if you tracked it well, so long as you don't alter the signal any with the mackie.

Yup.

[drbam]

>>I don't mind my mackie pre's. They are unremarkable, but not terrible. The eq's are terrible. The crosstalk is terrible. Signal to noise? Blah. Blah Blah. Rating of one to ten?: Blah.<<

Your comment seems to indicates that you own and use a Mackie but overall its "terrible." What other mixer/console do you use, and this also begs the question: why use a Mackie at if they are so terrible?

Thanks,

drbam

[littledog, jr.]

Originally posted by drbam:
why use a Mackie at if they are so terrible?

they be cheap (and their ads are funny).

[vinniesrs]

I do have a mackie 24ch 8 bus console. The yamaha is 20+ years old. The pre's are nice, the eq's are pretty good too.
I find the mackie is acceptable for what I do now, as I use it sans-eq, for playback mostly. The pre's are ok, so I also use it for some tracking. Depending on the sound I want, I will put an instrument through one (mackie) or the other(yamaha). I use the yamaha more like a 16 channel rack pre, and insert eq's if needed( I have a tendency to be stubborn while setting up mic,s and I usually don't have to eq much at all). Right now I need to spend a lot of money, on pre's new mixer, computer, software, acoustics, advertising, training, projects, and not necessarily in that order. Since I am running a business, I have to make a decision as to what things will benifit my time, and my ability to be competitive, before investing. Right now replacing the mackie is not a priority, because it does not severely impair my ability to be competitive in my area market. Replacing it will become a priority when I start to pursue bigger, higher paying clients.

If you are wondering why I got it in the first place.. ;)

[drbam]

Thanks for your clarification Steve. BTW, my last name is also Metcalf. Do you have any relatives from the Texas area?

drbam

[vinniesrs]

I have no relatives in that area as far as I know of. My branch of the family is very small, and local to the province of ontario. Only my immediate family live in the cambridge area, some relatives in owen sound, and a couple in the nations capital, Ottowa. We do however, originate from boston in the late 1700's.

Maybe I should have been a geneologist?(if that's what you call it) :D :D