Recording post hardcore/hardcore drums

[geeknik]

I don't know how you do it but this is what we always have done.

Record drums and in a seperate room from all the other instruments OR line the instruments into the board. This way you can get a scratch track of all the guitars etc. You will keep the drum track and go in and re-record all the guitar parts.

It works out good for us anyway.

[sickyboy]

One trick to try, mic the beater side of the kick drum and in the hole, you'll get a good combo of click and boom which seems to be essential in harder music.

I am thinking about trying this technique next week. Making 1 sample... and using drumagog to replace the sound throughout.

I also am going to try this. Somebody told me a 57 is a good mic for the beater side. Going to use a D112 for the hole.

Thats the way to do it. I put a D112 half way in the hole and a 57 on the outskirts of the beater side. Sounds great, that Korn sound. I didnt even comp or eq, sounded nearly perfect dry. Dont get me wrong, upgradeing to the D112 a day ago was a huge difference from that Audix fusion pak one. LOL

[NocturnalGrad]

Yea...thats another way to do it too. We'll probably end up doing it that way. Probably just D.I. the guitar the guitar and send it through the headphones for our drummer, maybe a click track for both the drummer and guitarist...but w/e works we'll stick with.

What do you use to mic the O.H. with?

[geeknik]

I am just getting started to be honest so I have Audix Fusion Drum mic kit. Their are 2 condenser mics that come with it. I am using those for the time being. They actually sound pretty good. I am doing a session for a posi hardcore band in the morning. I hope to have some samples for you guys by midweek.

[NocturnalGrad]

That would be great!

[bobbo]

i've got something i did in my makeshift practice space studio, i'll post it when i get home. its hardcore (i don't know all the diff hardcore genres), nothing was sound replaced, and the kick didn't come out the way i like due to not having enough damping on the kick, but it still cuts through and the drummer hits reallllly loud, exept on his tom rolls so his tom fills are very quiet. but you'll see. I tried to go for the converge overhead sound, kinda squashed. and it is alittle bit.

later,

[geeknik]

I recorded a band yesterday and have one song mixed. The singer is a little out of time in parts but I am going to post this on here so you guys can check my mixing and recording. I think it came out pretty good, and made the band sound pretty good. I'll put it up as soon as I make an mp3.

[geeknik]

http://www.eastkentuckysound.com/mp3...aveall/sga.mp3

This is what I did this weekend. The kick could've been better because half way through the session the mic fell out of the holder inside the kick drum!!! but it came out decent. The band isn't that great but you get a good idea. Let me know what I can do to get this sounding better.

[bobbo]

here is short clip i have for the hardcore/metal sound i said i would post

http://www.songramp.com/view.ez?sampleid=34637

i really hate how this guys drums sound, the kick needed more dampning, and the snare is way too tight, but hey i did this for free for them, and i think it turned out somewhat ok, and wish i would have stuck with a dynamic mic for screams but i was too much into playing with my new tube mic, the groove tubes gt66 at the time that after scratch vox were done we were so pressed with time we weren't able to switch back after we had started the od vox, th e vox was just not "dirty" enough for him, he wanted it to be more dull and sound like him practicing or playing with the entire band, so that cristal clear tube mic didn't help him get the grungy sound so i just ran his vox through my radius 30 comp and crushed the shit out it and got it to break up a little bit on mix down.

nothing was sound replaced, just the dude hitting the skins, and everything compressed as shit. i compressed those oh's so much, that i really didn't even need the tom mics turned on.

later
bobby

[zkaudio]

maye sure you understand what will happen to polarity when you mic toms from the top or bottom... same with kick. Remember that when a kick drum is hit you want your speakers to initially push out, not in. Same for all drums. Also go track by track and line up the zero points after correcting polarity. I have found that it is easier when recording genres like this to keep the room very dead and add in atmosphere after the fact.. that way if you want VERY present, dry drums, it is easy.