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[McKinnon]

Heyy guys im new here, but im in need of some help, and the forums are a great place to start! i have an old multitrack recorder which is awesome for laying stuff down just to remember them, but i need the real deal now, i have mics and stuff, but what do i need to basically have myself a studio set up, as in Pro Tools mixer etc. what are somethings i need to look for, and where do i start? im looking to set it up all right, so price of course an issue now a days, im not in any rush, so if you guys could give me some ideas on the equipment id need to start, brands models, etc. so far im nuder the impression im gonna need:
a new computer for all this
Pro Tools or something equivalent
mixer
and thats all? i dont really know guys help me out, im not looking to spend millions but i want really decent gear soo any suggstions, help?

[BobRogers]

I'm just curious. As your first post on this board you wrote 170 words, about 20 of which are misspelled. You are asking for advice on how to spend several thousand dollars. (We have no idea how many thousands of dollars since the only idea of a budget is that you are "not looking to spend millions.") In addition to budget, we have no idea of your experience, your musical interests, your recording space. You say you have "mics and stuff" but we have no idea what mics and what..uh...stuff.

So my basic question is: are you really planning to spend money based on the response you get to this post?

[McKinnon]

alright sorry its a big deal, im not the best speller on the computer but no im looking to spend money on whatever is going to get me a good efficient setup so i can record and edit and sound good i basically have nothing besides mics and mic cords. and an old multitrack recorder.

i need a setup thats well rounded, i play more rock music then anything, but stuff changes, so i have no idea where to start, thats why i was on here, like i said im doing this over the course of the year, not all at once, so im not looking for crappy equipment, i want stuff that i can make legit albums on and sound good. thats all. whatever you suggest to look into from there ill look into, idk what i am looking at when i look at a mixer or protools descrpition, not one clue, so i came here so maybe someone could put me in the right direction.


i figured someone could help me out, but it seems you are to worried with how i spelled things and how many words i wrote. if you dont want to help me out then sorry to bother you ill go somewhere else.

[natural]

Let's start out by finding out exactly what you do have.
If you have a multitrack recorder, then I'm assuming that you have everything outside of a DAW?
IOW- you have monitors, a console with mic inputs, some outboard processors (reverb, maybe a mic pre etc) enough cables and maybe a patchbay to wire everything together? (we really need your complete list because our mindreading powers suck on this site)
If so, then all you need is a computer, software and and interface (probably)
- Computers come in 2 flavors - Mac and non-mac
- Software- the most popular are probably Protools, Logic, and Cubase.
- Interface. This is what will take your line inputs from your mixer, Mic Pres, and/or synths, and send them into and out of the computer.

As to exactly which Computer, software, and interface is right for you will depend on what type of material you are recording (live bands? just you? drum machine and voc? etc) and what your budget is. Let's use $7000.00 as a pivot point. If your budget is less than 7K we will move in one direction - Over 7K and we may recommend another direction.
If you have over 15K at your disposal, we can move to another tier as well.

If you hang out here long enough you'll see why BobRogers asked the questions that he asked. (his mind reading powers are better than some, but still limited to 21st century technology)

[McKinnon]

Yeah im on forums a lot but drum forums and i know about drums which is why im a drummer, i know those are stupid question to you guys, but i have no freaking clue on where to start. basically all i have is mics okay, thats it, i am recording in a "studio" no live stuff, recording a full like 5 piece band, under 7K uhhhm yeah, idk what else to say, non mac computer, idk anytrhing about the softwares or the interfaces, so any info there would help

[Big K]

And you want to record them all together with about 16 Mic inputs (they come mostly in 8s ) and 8 line inputs....

Let's see:

Computer I/O
RME HDSPE RAYDAT - Thomann UK Cyberstore

2 x pre amps - good for both - line and mic input
RME OCTAMIC II - Thomann UK Cyberstore

1x RME ADI line in / out
RME ADI 8 DS - Thomann UK Cyberstore


1x Intel PC i7, 6 GB Ram, 2 x 1 TB Harddrives, OS: Win7, DualHead graphic card, 2 video monitors > 20",
DAW software: Cubase 6, UAD plugins, no console

Monitoring: PreSonus Central Station with remote
PRESONUS CENTRAL STATION - Thomann UK Cyberstore

Genelecs 8050
GENELEC 8050APM - Thomann UK Cyberstore


If your budget can deal with that and you have some cash left for decent room treatment and mics, headphones, cables, stands... you've got yourself a studio.

[BobRogers]

McKinnon - See, here's the thing. I don't really care that you don't use spell check or that you type im instead of I'm. I care that you are too lazy to do those things. I care that you are too lazy to fill out your profile so we know what continent you live on. I care that you are too lazy to look at the archives to get even a ballpark estimate of what a system can cost so that you can give even the most general idea of a budget. But what I really care about is that Big K took the time to spec out a really nice weekend warrior/semi pro level studio based on the information you gave but that we are now going to have to play twenty questions to get to something that will really work for you.

[Big K]

He is a Drummer... gross motor skills.... his ears?
;-)

Btw, this outfit I collected, ... I copied it from another thread with same questions I answered ...lol..
but with those gadgets, only his skill level should be the limit for quite a while.
A gifted engineer can produce a Grammy Award winning production on it... Let's see, what you come up with, McK..
:-)

[McKinnon]

McKinnon - See, here's the thing. I don't really care that you don't use spell check or that you type im instead of I'm. I care that you are too lazy to do those things. I care that you are too lazy to fill out your profile so we know what continent you live on. I care that you are too lazy to look at the archives to get even a ballpark estimate of what a system can cost so that you can give even the most general idea of a budget. But what I really care about is that Big K took the time to spec out a really nice weekend warrior/semi pro level studio based on the information you gave but that we are now going to have to play twenty questions to get to something that will really work for you.

okay man all i need is some help, like i said if im bothering you ill go somewhere else, and thank you Big K thats all i need somewhere to start, if thats good stuff then i can look around and compare with other stuff to sompare prices and what they offer, you know what i mean man? its pretty ridiculous that your a moderator and you gotta be so rude. all i need is some help thats all. Im from the U.S. btw not that it matters

[McKinnon]

He is a Drummer... gross motor skills.... his ears?
;-)

Btw, this outfit I collected, ... I copied it from another thread with same questions I answered ...lol..
but with those gadgets, only his skill level should be the limit for quite a while.
A gifted engineer can produce a Grammy Award winning production on it... Let's see, what you come up with, McK..
:-)

thanks thats all i need, i can learn anything, i just need to know what is worth learning on, youknow? are there any sites that sell that stuff for the states?