Rode NT5s or NT1000s for drum overheads?

[ChrisH]

Awesome, I've been "engineering" for 8 years, and never once have heard about gain staging, so thank you for filling me in, i can't wait to try it, ashamed I didn't know already.
I've tried many different mic placements for the overheads, I think it's just the combination of a budget signal chain.

[RemyRAD]

You're welcome. It's funny for myself to think that I've been building up my own digital audio workstations since 1996. I configure computers for other folks wanting to produce audio & video. However, you'd think our would know how to build websites a little more competently? I don't. And HTML to me may as well be Greek. So I use crappy entry level build your website at home cheap software and wonder why my site doesn't look like those other fancy Flashy sites? I know it's because I'm an idiot there so I'm still learning also. Thankfully I had a mentor in my younger years when I was still in my mid teens. And this old MS EE taught me things that no University offering " Recording Arts & Sciences " degrees teach. And even electrical engineers are not taught to use analog basics. Everything is digital & computer centric. So even friends of mine who have bachelors/masters degrees in electrical engineering have consulted me about audio. I've always been amazed about that but they've definitely indicated I know the stuff they weren't taught. And I never went to college, exactly, for any length of time so I'm just a common Schmuck that knows some audio stuff from good authorities. Oh yeah, my other mentor not as deeply involved with me, having an even better studio than my other mentor, was an LSD dropping freak whose father was one of the founders of IBM's computer division. And I was quite inquisitive so when I had questions, I got multiple answers from good sources. And when you can apply those concepts you suddenly find yourself.

I can produce excellent crap or produce crappy excellence.
Mx. Remy Ann David

[OneUpMastering]

I have a pair of NT5s as well as an NT4. While the 5's will do the job, they are kind of lackluster IMO. I would try to scrape up another $100 or so dollars over the price of the nt1000s and get a Matched pair of Josephson c42's. I bought them as an alternative to KM184s and 84s and they have blown me away time and time again. Stereo strings, drum OH, guitar cabs, solo strings, etc. I don't think I have used km (1)84's since. they fit the bill when I don't want the dark smooth sound of a Royer 121 (or 122) or the hyper-realistic sound of my EW qtc-40s

[ChrisH]

I would try to scrape up another $100 or so dollars over the price of the nt1000s and get a Matched pair of Josephson c42's.

Have you used the NT1000's for overheads??
I can get a discount on RODE mics at my work, so I can't turn down a pair of NT1000's. I've decided to go with LDC's now after hearing the difference.
How much better will the NT1000's sound in comparison to my Sterling Audio ST51s?

By the way... I never used compression on overheads till today and WOW, it added exactly what I was missing from my drum sound, ambience and more explosiveness on the cymbals. I DONT NEED ROOM MICS NOW =]

[Boswell]

...I've decided to go with LDC's now after hearing the difference.

What set of tests was this? What difference did you hear? Were the tests done in your drum room using your pre-amps?

The NT1000s are fine mics, but for use as overheads, you need the right environment to let them have the space to work in.

[ChrisH]

What set of tests was this? What difference did you hear? Were the tests done in your drum room using your pre-amps?

Spaced stereo pair configuration, placed as identical as possible, matched levels, and then a/b back and forth.
Yes, the tests were done in my drum room that has correct absorption, and I used my own pre-amps (which are not great).
It's not really a completely fair test, as there is many other variables that go into each mic besides the diaphragm size but
I feel that it gave me a ballpark idea of how the two different sizes sound.

you need the right environment to let them have the space to work in.

What exactly do you mean? Are you talking "type" of room? Cause I feel that a acoustically controlled environment should work.