Great Small Amps for recording guitar

[audiowkstation]

Taking a 5 min break..

What do those things sell for Kevin?

This one on ebay is commanding more than a Sovtek head and a good Altec 12"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=23790

[mixman77]

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[Kurt Foster]

I have several different options I use for recording guitars. One is a Mesa Boogie V Twin tube di. Basically a Mark III front end in a stomp box. This is a great bass di. I also have a Yamaha FX 500 guitar preamp multi efx box and a Line 6 Flextone. It has a di out that may be used like a POD. I can also use this with the speaker and a mic. But none of these can stand up to the tone of my 55 Fender Deluxe Tweed "narrow panel” (which I sold) or my ‘65 Ampeg Jet or my '62 Blond white knob Bassman. I personally like real amps. While the PODs and the Line 6 and the FX 500 have some cool effects the real amps beat them hands down. Kurt

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

yes, but AMP Farm has lots of cool stuff also!!!!
Imagining buying, renting all those amp models and speakers!LOL

A cheap and small amp... Peavey Bandit 112.

Yes Cedar, Fender Twin Reverb, a JCM 800/900 with a stack.....

[godotzilla]

I totally agree with what Kurt said about real amps; modeling and DI can yield some interesting special sounds, but for pure guitar tone, nothing beats a real speaker being driven by real tubes. There is a huge difference. Sure recording real amps takes more time and patience, but the results, when done properly, are often breathtaking. Real tubes respond to a player's dynamics and nuances in ways that solid state, digital, and modeling gear can only dream about (in ones and zeros, natch).

No offense to the Tech21/Sansamp stuff, which is good for what it is, but I can almost always tell when that kind of SS/DI equipment is used on a recording. Though I will qualify this by saying that tone starts in the fingers and the soul--a truly great player can make just about anything sound great. I saw Los Lobos on their last tour, and David Hidalgo was playing a solid state Tech 21 60-watt combo; Cesar was playing a Roccaforte tube head. David's tone was every bit as beautiful as Cesar's, but I knew it wasn't the amps, it was Mr. Hidalgo's amazing prowess as a player.

[mixman77]

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[RecorderMan]

Originally posted by Kevin M.:
Hi All,

Believe it or not most major label recordings concerning guitar were done through something like the Tech21 SanAmp.

....on what planet does this blanket statement hold true?
...A sans amp is great if used ala Tchad Blake, ect. or in a pinch, but is can't do what a good unit of anuy of the amps I previously posted can do, if properly miced up and recorded. Digital modelinhg, while nice for speed in coming up with parts, isn't anywhere near the same thing as a real amp. And, they're are very few, if any new amps that compare with ones built 30+ years ago (of course only the good ones from back then ahve survived...the bad ones get dumped)...that's not to say there are not any new things that are good. the reissues are passably good..it's jsut that sonically point to point wiring, class A (in most casses) simple diretc circuit design, ect...justt "sing" better.
Find a sweet blond deluxe, an AC30 topBoost, ect. and you'll hear what I mean.

[droog]

yeah, it's like b3 v's b4, the latter's more convenient, but the former just makes you feel better when you play it

[mixman77]

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[godotzilla]

Originally posted by RecorderMan:
And, they're are very few, if any new amps that compare with ones built 30+ years ago ... sonically point to point wiring, class A (in most casses) simple diretc circuit design, ect...justt "sing" better.
Find a sweet blond deluxe, an AC30 topBoost, ect. and you'll hear what I mean.

Werd to that, brutha!