Discussion in 'Pro Audio Gear' started by closer, Jan 20, 2004.
[ January 21, 2004, 08:55 AM: Message edited by: closer ]
Yes on the API, No on the MP20.
[ January 21, 2004, 08:56 AM: Message edited by: closer ]
Second, most if not all Full Sail grads are not even qualified to sweep the floor in a real studio. I wouldn't trust one of those flunkys to wind up a mic cord. I sure hope your not comparing what they do when they wank away in class to what you may be able to do and think that is anything to be proud of. And I surely would not be taking seriously any gear advice from any of those hacks and wankers no matter how much gear they are exposed to or how many buzz words they learn to spit out.
Third, there are many gear rental places all over the world and throughout the USA. Search the net a little and you can find them. The L.A. CA phone book should have at a least a dozen or more to choose from.
Fourth, If you think you have it all figured out and don't want to listen or be rational with reason, then go for it. You about to learn a real lesson about the audio and music business that you won't soon forget.
Well, there are a few exceptions to every rule. But there is no way you can convince me that just because you go a place like Full Sail that you come out as an educated engineer fully ready to take on the world.
I guess I scared him away....
ready to take on the world, yes!
as a full blown engineer? not QUITE yet, but every single day I am moving a little closer.
I will be graduating from Full Sail in May. I'm at the top of my class, but more importantly, I have experience and know what the hell I'm doing 99.9% of the time. The sad thing is that the school is so d**n easy that a blind & deaf 10 year old could graduate from the audio program. The fact that many studio owners and managers aren't happy with the grads they get from there just means one thing - they don't know how to hire the right people!
Please do me a favor - reconize that there are talanted and educated people that come from Full Sail. We are simply not the majority. Don't give the rest of us a bad rep because you can't conduct a interview!
- learning all I can -
Ask any working professional studio and you'll learn that places like Full Fail are a complete joke for a vaild education in the audio industry. And it's not because you don't learn things, but it is because of what you learn and how you learn it that they are very poor at as well as the expectations they lead and let you believe that you are qualified for just because you pass their short pathetic little program.
So congradulations. You've made a wise career move. You are now qualified to turn on specific audio equipment that you'll never likely ever own, for a job in a top studio that your still not qualified to work in and that you'll never ever likely work in as a 1st or lead engineer, and are now able to impress people with your vast knowledege of rack gear makes and models, the latest in cool music slang, mis-informed marketing concepts, industry buzz words as well as your total lack of praticle experience. You really should be proud. Now let's see what you do after you get that diploma...
I wouldnt worry so much about someone elses lack of skills at interveiwing but my own as a person capable of networking and establishing myself in the good favor of those who could help me achieve my goals.It sounds to me that you already have a bit of a chip to carry and that would seem to me, given the community's general opinion of the grads at your school, a second strike.....Look deep into yourself, grasshopper,look deep and become aware.
When I was an assistant, I kept my lips ZIPPED!!! I had all the menus memorized, my own coffee machiene and bean grinder, and a bag full of "emergency" items*(tums, spare drum hardware, gtr picks, etc... even a bunch of candles and incense for those vibe heads... ANYTHING that kept the tape rolling!)
*many off James Creer's "assistants bag" list
Thats not to say that what you learn is unimportant, not at all, but most studios already have a GIANT list of engineers they could use that are way more qualified than a noob out of FS or any other school.
I will paraphrase what somone said to me...
If I cant trust you to get me "the best chow mein or fish taco's at 1:30am" correctly, why should trust you with my console?
If I could change anything about FS, I would kill off all their damn ads... I just happened to be living in Orlando, thats how I found out about it...
respekt to all,
I'm just starting to attend one of those audio schools in New York and believe me there are lots of hacks and DJs out there -- but I think those with the talent and drive ultimately will make it in this business, *with or without* formal schooling!
Going back to school just shows that one is willing to show up to the page, to use a writer's term, not really any gifts, talents or knack for being the next Nile Rodgers.
[ January 30, 2004, 08:03 AM: Message edited by: MassProduced ]
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