What's the best mic for my voice? Demo included...

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  1. rawsoul

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    Not sure if I'm posting in the right place, but sure do let me know where I need to repost if here isn't it.

    How am i supposed to live - raw cheap mic by rawsoul on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

    My budget is up to $400.

    Only need it to record tracks at home.

    I have no preamp...very new to this whole recording thing. Only sang live and recorded on cheap mics.

    Trying to decide between a USB mic or preamp + mic,

    I now have Cubase (still trying to figure out this ASIO4ALL thing)

    Look forward to your pro tips and recommendations!
     
  2. aj113

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    I doubt that you'll need anything over and above an SM58 at this stage.
     
  3. rawsoul

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    SM58 for recording? Thought it was more of a live mic...or are you saying it is better suited for this voice
     
  4. Shannon Adkins

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    The 58 is a great mic. I have/had a few mics in the $700 range and sometimes I still prefer it on vocals.
    With your budget and lack of any preamp at all, you should get a 58 or a 57 and spend the other $300 on an interface with built in pres. There are several in that price range.
    Do you have monitors or headphones?
    Don't limit yourself by buying a usb mic.
     
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  6. rawsoul

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    Hmm...so all I will need to get going is the SM58 and this? PreSonus FireStudio Mobile 10x6 FireWire Recording System: Shop Pro Audio & Other Musical Instruments | Musician's Friend
    I've got Sennheiser HD555 headphones and not sure what you mean by monitor...this sounds dumb but yes I have a 22" LCD monitor lol
     
  7. Shannon Adkins

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    Yeah, that will work to get you started.
    By monitors I meant speakers that are designed for the studio. Don't worry about that though because you'll be alright with just the headphones for now.
    Your Sennheisers will be fine but they are an open back design so be careful how loud you have them turned up when you're singing.....if they are too loud the mic will pick up the music coming out of them......and because of that you definitely don't want to use a condenser as it will really pick up that noise.
    If you find that you can't hear yourself good enough because of the low volume, you can find a pair of closed headphones for pretty cheap to use when singing.
    Have fun and welcome to the addicting world of home recording:)
     
  8. rawsoul

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    I was looking at the SM58 for quite a long time, but read something that made me lean towards the EV PL80c. The sound engineer that reviewed it used the SM58 as his workhorse for years, and when he tested the EV PL80a he was blown away and called the SM58 YUCK, and muffled in comparison. Do you know anything about that mic? I really want to start well here and cannot afford to mishit on this first investment.
     
  9. Shannon Adkins

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    No, but EV has been around for a while and they have a great reputation. In that same budget there's also the Sennheiser e835, and Audix OM2 and i5. I've used all three of those live and in my studio. The 835 was horrible on my voice (extreme sibilance) but some people LOVE them. The OM2 and i5 are more hifi sounding than the 58 and 57, respectively...but it really depends what you want to do with them and your singing style. If I'm singing in a smooth manner, the Audix mics (especially the OM2) sound great....more condenser-like than a 58. If I want to get a little grittier performance, the 58 or 57 will help add a little edge. Is one "better" than the other?...no. It just depends what you're going after.
    A lot of these mics mentioned are very commonly used all over the place...see if you can borrow some and test them for yourself to see what sound YOU like.
    And buy from a place that has a good return policy and you have nothing to worry about.
     
  10. Shannon Adkins

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    BTW, I just noticed you posted the same question in several of the forums. Just so you know, a lot of times if people see that it will detract them from answering you.
     
  11. rawsoul

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    Thanks a lot for all your input. I see this place is not as active as I had hoped it to be. I admit I was in a rush to get to a decision after weeks of "due diligence" and getting nowhere...but maybe I'm closer now. It was more like I realized the initial places I posted were not the most suitable ones. Sorry about that, mods!

    Based on my vocal style/source that I posted in the first post, can you give me some better advice as to the type of mic to match it?
     
  12. Shannon Adkins

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    Give the Audix OM-2 a try......if you don't like it send it back for an SM58.
     
  13. Shannon Adkins

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    Are you recording anything besides vocals?
     
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    Acoustic guitar, probably plugged in to the Firebox, and maybe keyboard through the mic
     
  15. Shannon Adkins

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    Keyboard shoud be recorded strait in, not miked. But yeah, give the OM-2 a try.
     
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    Shannon likes that better Pre-Sonus device that has more input and output flexibility. For $100 less you can get the Audio Box USB 1.1 unit for $150 US. So the money you'll save will pay for the SM58. By the way I recommend the SM58. If everything else sounded better, you would see everything else on everything else on TV. You don't. There's a reason for that. I don't care what any reviewer says, they're getting paid. If they're not getting paid, they get a free bag of microphones as an endorsement package to use. And while some folks like those Audix, the only one I like is their base drum microphone D6. Anytime people think a microphone sounds better, that's a purely subjective opinion. I happen to know that 58 can virtually be used interchangeably and sounds comparable to the + $3000 German-made Neumann 87's and all their others. I know that sounds crazy but it's true. And I've got the studio and the award nominations to prove it. Actually I don't have any studio... boo-hoo, sniff sniff, I used to. Now I just have a truck. A nice little truck. A simple little 25,000 pound Mercedes-Benz 1117 turbodiesel with a $150,000 control room inside the box. It would be great if there was any business for it these days??

    I'll have to sell my Neve just to afford the diesel fuel... sheesh.
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
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    Wow, nice truck Remy, and thanks for the input. What if I get the Audio Box and go with an LDC like the CAD M179? Is my voice too loud for condenser mics? The videos I've seen on youtube with condenser vocals seem so clear and vivid...is the SM58 capable of such as well? I keep hearing "muddy", "muffled" and it's really bothering me
     
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    Anyone who makes an SM58 sound "muffled" isnt doing it right. There's a lot of mics. When you are first starting out its always a good idea to start with something that is tried and true. As your skills develop you can then look to alternative sounds and gear. But as a basic setup, the SM58 has no peers.
     
  19. Shannon Adkins

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    People listen to cheaply made condensers that are extremely hyped in the upper frequencies and then they think the SM58 sounds muffled by comparison. What they don't get is that all that high freq info makes their recordings sound terrible and thin because digital is not forgiving at all in the high frequencies.
    I don't have a big mic collection. I have a few condensers in the sub $1000 range that are generally well received and I also like their sound. I also used to own some other well respected sub $1000 condenser mics that I liked but had to let go of because on my budget I have to have all starters...no bench. Being a singer/songwriter who generally only records himself, I don't need a lot of mics.
    I would say 75% of my vocal duties are handled by dynamic mics. Most of the time, I use the Shure sm7b. It's a truly awesome vocal mic. If I want a little more edge and slightly less thick sound, I use an SM58. I don't own the Audix OM-2 but my one of my friends does. I had it in my studio for about a week and was impressed with it on vocals. But I wouldn't trade my 58 for it...because I have other mics that will do what I feel the Audix does better than the 58.
    Very few times do I think the condensers I own out-perform dynamics on "MY" voice. When I think the song calls for something with quicker transient response, I'll use a condenser. For acoustic guitar I always reach for a condenser.
    The m179 has been praised by many people for it's price/performance ratio....and for your acoustic guitar it will probably be better than a 58 (if you hang up some blankets to get rid of high freq reflections and make some homemade bass traps for the corners of your room). Condensers will pick up more of the room sound than dynamics...which is another reason you're better off starting out with dynamics.
    You should listen to Remy and get the cheaper interface for sure. Even if you got the PreSonus right now, you'll end up upgrading later. You won't upgrade a 58/57 or whatever dynamic you end up getting. There will always be a use for it.
     
  20. rawsoul

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    I see. Is the PreSonus then the best preamp in the class and price range? How about the [h=1]Focusrite Saffire Pro 14?[/h]