I'm wondering if there is a plug /processor that I could use to do this on the 2 mix, pre mastering. Any thoughts?
Thomas W. Bethel
Acoustik Musik, Ltd.
Room with a View Productions
Oberlin, OH 44074
Celebrating 18 years in the mastering business in 2013
Cool, thank you for clarifying Thomas because I'm doing this all the time now
Donny, Samplitude/Sequoia has this option. I was actually thinking about re mixing a song of yours that I did a while back to tighten up the bass. I think this would really kick ass.
See Stereo/Phase plug-ins or this is also automatically part of the master buss section.
Sharing the hybrid experience
Even vinyl don't need it except when searching for super hot level.
Early Lee Scratch Perry vinyls are some interesting examples where instruments are hard panned including the bass despite it's roots Reggea. Not to mention the Beatles in the hard panned department.
I agree, 260 is too high for me ( most of the time) so I go down to 125hz or there about and might only blend it half way mono. I like stereo bass but a mix is always punchier sounding, easier to control and seems to produces louder final mixes. I could change this concept but currently, if the bass is dead center and mono on the subs, the mix just sounds tighter. So many people in the remix department are phasing out the subs and it sounds weird to me. Never translates well on mass either. You don't find that?
IMHO, cheap 2+1 computer speakers are the source of this urban legend because any stereo information in the bass hurts the bass translation.
But for a regular stereo system, stereo bass are the best source of spaciousness.
A punchy audio can be achieved without killing the stereo width.
Not necessarily at the end of a mix but, I admit you have much more ME experience than me so I could be way off.
Some people have so much going on that the only way I hear it improving is by mono the subs on the master. If I can mix a track, get deeper into it than stems, I will fix or tighten up the bass before it gets to the 2buss and may never do it on the master. But still, I personally think mono bass sounds punchier dead center. I know its not wider but I tend to like the more focused subs.
The vox and majority of instruments are never down there anyway.
I especially like the kick in a mix done like this.
I realize some people would be choked hearing this done to their synths but I think thats more because they don't get the bigger picture. ?
Something else I might do is add a processor after the mono is set to re establish the stereo sub field in a gentle way. I'm finding there are a few ways to do this.
Last edited by bigtree; 07-12-2013 at 03:11 PM. Reason: re phrased
Yeah I do this in Ozone 5 pretty much every time. It also makes life a little easier for the limiter.